About babies name?

[Linzerelli13]

Currently 39+6 with baby #2.
We already have a DD (3). Before we found out she was a girl we wrote a list of names for both boys and girls that we liked and narrowed it down to two for each. When we had it confirmed she was a girl we both picked the same name as our favourite.
When we found out that this baby was a boy, I assumed that we would use one of the top 2 boy names we had picked out for DD. DP has changed his preference though, and one of the names has been used by a family member. Fair enough, I thought, so we set about coming up with new names.
We've really struggled to agree this time around. He really wanted Arthur for a while, which I really don't like. (I mean no offence to anyone who has an Arthur, it's just not for me and and I don't feel that it goes with DD's fairly modern name)
We eventually agreed on Connor for all of 3 weeks and then HE Changed his mind again and we eventually settled on Jackson. We mutually agreed that we like it as there are plenty of nicknames and variations, it goes well with his last name and with DD's name.
I've now purchased personalised blankets, hat's, taggies etc as he was 100% that that's what he was called. DD has been calling my bump Jackson for about 6 weeks now too.
Just tonight, baring in mind its my bloody due date tomorrow, He's gone out for a drink with his brother, and come back DEMANDING that we call the baby Arthur.
He says that Jackson is a stupid name and too American and he wants to call the baby something traditional. Baring in mind he bloody chose it and promised me that he was 100% sure on it.
Now I know that this is his brothers influence. I don't particularly like him, He's an arrogant nobhead who has made remarks in the past that has made me not like him. When I was pregnant with DD, he told DP that 'you want to het rid of it. Variety is the spice of life and you dont want to be tied down to just one woman. Having a baby is a big mistake'. 2 months later his gf was pregnant. He also took the p*ss out of DD's name.
Anyway, when DP has come home after the 6 pints his brother has fed him, He's now adamant that Jackson is a stupid name and he wont be calling our son it. He doesn't even want baby to have his last name if it can't be Arthur.
AIBU? Or is he? And do you agree that his brother is a tw@t? Sorry for the rambling post.

Call him Eric. And be done with it.

Jackson is not a common American first name. Surname yes. I’m American and really confused about this whole thing, I’ve never met anyone named Jackson in my life.

Every Arthur I know is over 60 years old.

Jackson is popular for little boys in the US but not so much for adults, it peaked in 2012.

www.babynamewizard.com/voyager#prefix=jackson&sw=both&exact=false

Your DP has behaved like a twat but I can't stand the name Jackson - it's a surname, not a first name. But then I'm quite traditional - I don't even like "Jack" as I think that's chavvy and not a proper name. I'd go for John, with a nickname of Jack - but I'd never use Jackson (and don't get me started on Harrison, eugh!)

I think Arthur is a lovely name but of course neither parent gets to just dictate the name. Sounds like the two of you need to go back to the drawing board. And it isn't a disaster if you can't agree before the baby is born as you still have some time to decide.

"Every Arthur I know is over 60 years old."

Perfect - that means it's probably about to have a serious comeback, but you'd be early enough that your son won't have 6 others in his class. You'd almost certainly be just ahead of the game with this one!

Midnite I live in Australia too and to be fair, a LOT of names here are very American.

I met a Jett the other day.

I much prefer Arthur but OP's baby...

BertieBotts according to this 12,000 babies were named Jackson in 2012 which is the most popular year for the name. There are about 4 million babies born annually in the US. Sorry that's not a massively popular nor "American" name, probably there was a TV character with the name that year or something!

www.babynameshub.com/boy-names/Jackson.html

I just find it ridiculous that something "being American" is used as a criticism when at least on Mumsnet 95% of the things that get that designation seem to be imagined in the minds of people who've never been there.

Okay, but it was the 22nd most popular name in that year, so it doesn't mean that 50% of babies will be named that or something, but it does mean it's widely used. 16th most popular in 2013 apparently and now declining again. Still that's something like 3,000 every 1mil births so it will be something like 1 in 300 children or 1 in 150 boys being named Jackson. Even the #1 most popular name (last year, Noah) is less than 20,000 or 1 in every 100 boys. The top baby boy's name in the UK (Oliver) is also at around 1% of the population.

It's less popular in the UK as it doesn't appear in the top 100 at all. I was just making a point that names which have been more popular in the US and practically unknown in the UK in the past such as Harrison and Carter are now appearing in UK top baby name stat lists, which means that they are becoming more popular.

This isn't making any value judgement, it's just commentary on naming trends, which obviously tend to differ between countries.

I chose first names, DH chose middle names. Job done. Jackson Arthur?

sulks in corner with hangover

I still prefer Jagggggthon

The distaste for ‘American’ names is because in the U.K. they tend to be used by families with lower background education, and lower socioeconomic status. Interestingly, the same thing is try in Germany. It’s the ‘surnames as firstnames’ trend that is seen as very American. We do enjoy a lot of american culture, but I wouldn’t say it’s got a high status, e.g eating burgers from Macdonalds, going to Costco.
Whereas Scandinavian names and culture is seen as high status, and very middle class.
I suppose the Australian equivalent would be ‘Bogan names’. Is Jackson a bogan name, out of interest?

Pasta yes it is rather. Like Bodie...or something like that.

I like it spelt Jaxon but that's much of a muchness

Compromise on "Jacxon"?

‘Bogan names’.

Are they anything to do with Star trek?

I know a couple of Arthurs who are under 12 years old. (One of them is a cocker spaniel, though).

Your baby OP - your choice. We all like different names and it's just as well otherwise we'd never be able to differentiate our children.

Hope you have a nice easy birth and your BIL loses the power of speech whenever he tries to criticise your choices.

Jason is not a form of Jackson. It's ancient Greek. HTH.

Oops, sorry, TheClaws! I should RTFT!

I agree with @NoCanoe
Call him Eric.

Your dp is a knob.

In regards to the name Jackson being popular around 2012 in the US, it probably had something to do with the character Jackson Avery in the show Grey’s Anatomy. An extremely good looking man in one of America’s biggest shows of recent times.

Your dp has no right to come home demrunk shouting the odds. Here’s hoping you can have a reasoned discussion with him now the drink has worn off.

Demrunk?? Drunk obviously.

I like Jackson (not the point of the thread, I know) but every time I hear that name I get the song stuck in my head:
We got married in a fever,
Hotter than a pepper sprout.
We've been talking 'bout Jackson,
Ever since the fire went out...

Glad you got it sorted out though op and congratulations and good luck with the birth; hope everything goes well.

@Ihaveacuntingplan thank you. And that's the song that made DP pick Jackson in the first place

I love that song. I sing it to my son, who has a very similar name. He's in y2 now and is a Johnny Cash fan

Arthur was the 30th most popular name in 2017 according to Bounty. One up from 2016. I know 6 Arthur’s under 9 personally. Maybe it’s a regional thing? Who knows.
www.bounty.com/pregnancy-and-birth/baby-names/top-baby-names/the-top-100-boys-names-of-2017

It’s a marmite name isn’t it. I love it but then I have an 8 year old Arthur. 😀