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to let you know how men use the Equality Act to undermine women's spaces

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pisacake · 25/11/2017 15:10

This is Liam. Liam was a 17-year-old Harry Potter fan (photo here from his Twitter).

twitter.com/iamLilyTM/status/639376063655739392

Liam doesn't appear to have too much interest in running, but nonetheless got very upset that there are women-only runs, in addition to the thousands that are open to men.

He thinks this is similar to apartheid, or Rosa Parks being told to go to the back of the bus. twitter.com/iamLilyTM/status/637324189733666816 (August 2015)

Being kept out annoys Liam. (And a lot of other MRAs alike who get REALLY angry at not being allowed to join, despite their being literally thousands of other places to run.)

But wait! An idea! If Liam says he is a girl, he will be able to go wherever he likes including all those women-only runs he was so cruelly rebuffed from.

After all, at one time the Race for Life was able to be kept relatively man-free, as Cancer Research said:

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120528181520/raceforlife.cancerresearchuk.org/utilities/faqs/who-can-enter/index.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20120528181520/raceforlife.cancerresearchuk.org/utilities/faqs/who-can-enter/index.html

"Under the Gender Recognition Act 2004 we are happy to accept entries from individuals who possess a female birth certificate or gender recognition certificate. However, as Race for Life is a female-only event we have a promise and responsibility to our female supporters to ensure our Race for Life events are represented by women only. Therefore, if you do not have either a gender recognition certificate or a female birth certificate, we are afraid you will not be able to participate in Race for Life. "

But this didn't last long! The Equality Act 2010 came along and it said

"A person has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment if the person is proposing to undergo, is undergoing or has undergone a process [of changing gender]". So anyone who is even THINKING about changing gender is protected, and you better be careful about crossing them.

So Raceforlife quickly deleted the requirement for a GRC, and just to confirm this.

twitter.com/CharlotteMedler/status/604486954785357824

"Hey @raceforlife what is your opinion on pre-op women running? Does having a wang mean I can't do it? Let me know, pls."

The reply:
"hello, transgender women are welcome to take part in our events, so we'd love to have you :)"

Message has got through loud and clear to Liam, a few months later Liam says he is a girl called Lily (this declaration isn't really accompanied by any action, though he has had one Gender clinic appointment, where he got some handouts about hormones).

He tells his school. Some people, including his younger sister, are unhappy about his behaviour.

But not to worry, he looks up 'solicitor' on Google, and finds a firm of solicitor who represent teenage Harry Potter fans wanting access to women & girls spaces, completely for free! www.buzzfeed.com/patrickstrudwick/this-trans-teen-threatened-her-school-with-legal-action-to-w Awesome! Free lawyers!Totally no consequences!

Emboldened, he moves on, with his MRA activity, getting a woman kicked kicked out of a neighbouring constituency Labour party:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5087503/All-Labour-officials-local-committee-resign.html

Then he's elected women's officer in his own CLP.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-teenager-lily-madigan-voted-in-as-a-labour-women-s-officer-mwchkhzq8

Then people point out that he seems to own a Twitter account with blowjob, rape, Jimmy Savile & curry jokes. He says it's fake then it's pointed out it's dated 2013 so unlikely to be, and finally he blames his younger brother for the acocunt and says his family is racist, sexist and homophobic and that's why he has moved on from them.

www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/transgender-labour-womens-officer-rochester-817234

Said brother is not impressed and calls him out publicly for throwing him under the bus

twitter.com/madigan_smurf/status/933760359810428928

Lily/Liam is a big fan of Jeremy Corbyn, who for his own part has said that, as a genuine 100% authentic transwoman, Lily/Liam can do whatever he wants. www.facebook.com/MedwayLabour/posts/1506650112756340

As if all these weren't enough, he's now being sponsored for a Women in Leadership programme in by Tris Osborne, a (male, natch) Labour candidate in Luton. twitter.com/cllrtrisosborne/status/934368405993508864

Rosa Parks eat your heart out eh? Look who's got the last laugh now! Silly women wanting a race without men in it!

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TheNationalist · 26/11/2017 06:40

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tempEmail · 26/11/2017 06:47

Is a running event a "women's only space". Is a 17 year old boy a "man"?

This a complete non-issue.

Who do you think you're "letting know"?

Pluckedpencil · 26/11/2017 06:51

There are two ways out of this fucked up situation as I see it.
The best would be a Liam type character trying to enter a high level sporting competition, like tennis or Olympic level running. They are allowed to do it and the public finally recognize the absurdity.
Or the more amusing would be for several hundred women declaring themselves men and claiming all manner of legal rights, especially entry to top notch gentlemen's clubs, frequented by politicians ideally.

Pluckedpencil · 26/11/2017 06:54

The sad thing for me is trans issues could be women's equality issues if they wanted to be. But instead of both minorities trying to make Gender equal and therefore a non issue, they draw the lines ever more firmly.

Timmytoo · 26/11/2017 07:01

As women we can identify as male and take part in men’s activities too - It goes both ways. I think the majority of men would rather cut off their left arm than identify as female, as a feminist, I actually see this in a different way in that women are so amazing that men want to become us now.

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FritzDonovan · 26/11/2017 07:20

Women claimed the rights of men and forced themselves into male spaces a long time ago.
Can you give me a list of these nationalist? Or are you actually talking about the right to equal education, health, not to be assaulted etc?

BingoFlamingo · 26/11/2017 07:27

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WellErrr · 26/11/2017 07:27

Women claimed the rights of men and forced themselves into male spaces a long time ago.

What, like polling stations?

WellErrr · 26/11/2017 07:29

There's an extremely unpleasant undertone to your posts, Nationalist.

Extremely unpleasant.

Lancelottie · 26/11/2017 07:34

Nationalist is a dick and not worth arguing with, folks. Reported, on no end of obvious grounds.

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busyboysmum · 26/11/2017 07:36

Pluckedpencil

There are two ways out of this fucked up situation as I see it. The best would be a Liam type character trying to enter a high level sporting competition, like tennis or Olympic level running. They are allowed to do it and the public finally recognize the absurdity.

See the son of a millionaire Laurel Hubbard in the example below. A very average male weight lifter now going from strength to strength smashing all previous women's records in weight lifting.

www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11947752

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howdoyoudecide · 26/11/2017 07:48

The armed forces and priesthood are jobs not safe spaces.

OhFucko · 26/11/2017 07:52

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think women should be in polling stations. Women generally are too irrational to vote properly

Oh, an MRA, how original.

I always get an image of some sad man sitting in dirty Y fronts, hammering furiously on the keyboard whilst shouting at your mum to bring you more chips, and thinking angrily of all the women who've ever turned you down.

FritzDonovan · 26/11/2017 07:55

nationalist your examples are pathetic. Those institutions were originally set up to exclude women deliberately on gender grounds.
Women only spaces are due to women needing safe spaces from abusive individuals, generally in possession of a penis (ie biological men).
Women only jobs either refer to the above, or are there to fulfill an equality quota.
I'm sure you know all this, and I'm sure many ppl can argue the facts much more eloquently than me.

Lancelottie · 26/11/2017 07:56

Or it’s a misguided comedy writer, I suppose?

FritzDonovan · 26/11/2017 07:57

Missed your update while typing. You're just being a gf now Grin. I'm out.

LizzieSiddal · 26/11/2017 07:57

but I don't think women should be in polling stations. Women generally are too irrational to vote properly

Yeah and you sound totally saneHmm

Fuck off, you dick.

OhFucko · 26/11/2017 07:57

No point discussing with an MRA, they believe that women are basically sub-human.

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BeyondAssignation · 26/11/2017 08:02

Obvious troll is obvious.

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