to let you know how men use the Equality Act to undermine women's spaces

[pisacake]

This is Liam. Liam was a 17-year-old Harry Potter fan (photo here from his Twitter).

twitter.com/iamLilyTM/status/639376063655739392

Liam doesn't appear to have too much interest in running, but nonetheless got very upset that there are women-only runs, in addition to the thousands that are open to men.

He thinks this is similar to apartheid, or Rosa Parks being told to go to the back of the bus. twitter.com/iamLilyTM/status/637324189733666816 (August 2015)

Being kept out annoys Liam. (And a lot of other MRAs alike who get REALLY angry at not being allowed to join, despite their being literally thousands of other places to run.)

But wait! An idea! If Liam says he is a girl, he will be able to go wherever he likes including all those women-only runs he was so cruelly rebuffed from.

After all, at one time the Race for Life was able to be kept relatively man-free, as Cancer Research said:

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120528181520/raceforlife.cancerresearchuk.org/utilities/faqs/who-can-enter/index.html" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20120528181520/raceforlife.cancerresearchuk.org/utilities/faqs/who-can-enter/index.html

"Under the Gender Recognition Act 2004 we are happy to accept entries from individuals who possess a female birth certificate or gender recognition certificate. However, as Race for Life is a female-only event we have a promise and responsibility to our female supporters to ensure our Race for Life events are represented by women only. Therefore, if you do not have either a gender recognition certificate or a female birth certificate, we are afraid you will not be able to participate in Race for Life. "

But this didn't last long! The Equality Act 2010 came along and it said

"A person has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment if the person is proposing to undergo, is undergoing or has undergone a process [of changing gender]". So anyone who is even THINKING about changing gender is protected, and you better be careful about crossing them.

So Raceforlife quickly deleted the requirement for a GRC, and just to confirm this.

twitter.com/CharlotteMedler/status/604486954785357824

"Hey @raceforlife what is your opinion on pre-op women running? Does having a wang mean I can't do it? Let me know, pls."

The reply:
"hello, transgender women are welcome to take part in our events, so we'd love to have you :)"

Message has got through loud and clear to Liam, a few months later Liam says he is a girl called Lily (this declaration isn't really accompanied by any action, though he has had one Gender clinic appointment, where he got some handouts about hormones).

He tells his school. Some people, including his younger sister, are unhappy about his behaviour.

But not to worry, he looks up 'solicitor' on Google, and finds a firm of solicitor who represent teenage Harry Potter fans wanting access to women & girls spaces, completely for free! www.buzzfeed.com/patrickstrudwick/this-trans-teen-threatened-her-school-with-legal-action-to-w Awesome! Free lawyers!Totally no consequences!

Emboldened, he moves on, with his MRA activity, getting a woman kicked kicked out of a neighbouring constituency Labour party:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5087503/All-Labour-officials-local-committee-resign.html

Then he's elected women's officer in his own CLP.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-teenager-lily-madigan-voted-in-as-a-labour-women-s-officer-mwchkhzq8

Then people point out that he seems to own a Twitter account with blowjob, rape, Jimmy Savile & curry jokes. He says it's fake then it's pointed out it's dated 2013 so unlikely to be, and finally he blames his younger brother for the acocunt and says his family is racist, sexist and homophobic and that's why he has moved on from them.

www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/transgender-labour-womens-officer-rochester-817234

Said brother is not impressed and calls him out publicly for throwing him under the bus

twitter.com/madigan_smurf/status/933760359810428928

Lily/Liam is a big fan of Jeremy Corbyn, who for his own part has said that, as a genuine 100% authentic transwoman, Lily/Liam can do whatever he wants. www.facebook.com/MedwayLabour/posts/1506650112756340

As if all these weren't enough, he's now being sponsored for a Women in Leadership programme in by Tris Osborne, a (male, natch) Labour candidate in Luton. twitter.com/cllrtrisosborne/status/934368405993508864

Rosa Parks eat your heart out eh? Look who's got the last laugh now! Silly women wanting a race without men in it!

[ferntwist]

Absolutely, yes. The 2004 Act specifically excludes primogeniture from its remit.

[OlennasWimple]

Beyond - ? I'm trying to work out why they are different. If it was because the name of the account was changed, surely it would have changed on both the intial tweet he send AND the reply?

[Maryz]

So if there is an older daughter and a younger son (pre-Prince George and the revision of the Act), and the younger son transitions, she takes precedence over her older sister even though they are both now (legally) women.

Wow. That's taking the piss (even more than most of this shit takes the piss).

[Superlandlady]

More points to make about Liam Madigan:

1. he only left school 4 months ago.
   

1. he only joined the Labour Party 6 months ago.

[Superlandlady]

Also, he has never "lived as a woman".

Never.

[ftw]

Of course he’s a real woman. He finished that tweet to OJ with a x. Like us women do. X

[Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g]

@Maryz, yes, isn't it. The number of women affected is minuscule and I would suspect most people would prefer that either inherited titles are abolished or lose all right to sit in the Upper Chamber. But it makes it so astoundingly, unarguably crystal clear that the Lords and the government never did really believe that a woman can change sex. And yet a man can, just by saying he feels like a woman.

[Superlandlady]

So, a man can be women's officer, claim grants/bursaries and scholarships made for women, and ALSO claim primogeniture as the "first born make" and go to the house of lords, where he'll wear a dress?

Fuck this.

PEAK TRANS!

[Superlandlady]

"FIRST BORN MALE" not make, sorry

[Superlandlady]

If Prince Charles changes sex to be a woman, will that put Princess Anne on the throne next?

[Superlandlady]

Oh no, that doesn't work LOL This is so confusing that I have even confused myself!

I meant Prince Andrew.

[FlaviaAlbia]

No, it doesn't affect primogeniture Superlandlady

Though at the minute there's a spousal veto, so Camilla could say no and he'd have to divorce her before becoming the first trans woman King.

I believe the new reforms proposed by Maria Miller would remove that veto however. So would he then be the first trans woman King in a same sex relationship?

[OlennasWimple]

Super - since Charles had children, Andrew has been pushed down the line of inheritance anyway.

But pre-children....

The Royal Family goes in order of birth:

Charles
Anne
Andrew
Edward

But in order of line to the throne:

Charles
Andrew
Edward
Anne

Even if one or three of them were transexual, it would still be

Charlotte
Andrea
Edwina
Anne

[PovertyPain]

poster idfwu Sat 25-Nov-17 18:41:47
Twisted old crone

Ok idfwu, I'll pat you on the head and give you the attention you obviously crave. I've noticed this little boy turn up on threads, throw an insult then leave.

I'm just wondering what the idfwu stands for?
I Don't Find Women Unreasonable?

[PortlyWino]

I've sent this thread to Own Jones and said I was most interested in his view.

[CertainHalfDesertedStreets]

The thing that pisses me right off about this primogeniture arseholery is that we are constantly being told that it is utterly ridiculous to think someone would ever claim to be a woman just to access women and girls in vulnerable situations or to win medals or titles.

But actually it is very obvious that if you can gain an advantage in this way people will.

And the primogeniture exception makes it clear that, actually, our lawmakers realise that. They just don't give any kind of fuck when it's women in the firing line.

[CAAKE]

Yes, quite.

[PovertyPain]

Trans activists insist they were born in the 'wrong' body, so surely that means that those men were really women from birth and the women born in the 'wrong' body are really men? Are those in the government telling them that they're incorrect. Surely if they're in the 'wrong' body, then the tifs are actually the first born 'son'?

[PovertyPain]

CAAKE That's absolutely brilliant. Can you post a link, please? I'm really interested in the response from the cool aid gang.

[PovertyPain]

It's ok CAAKE I found it. 🙂

[ladyballs]

Nasty little shit.

[PovertyPain]

Nasty little shit

Yes, you're right, Liam does seem like a nasty little shit. 👍

[CAAKE]

Oh yes @PovertyPain , sorry. Worth reading the thread for sure -

twitter.com/owenjones84/status/934379743260106752

[SoftDay]

I agree with all the points being made here. The primogeniture exception tells us everything we need to know about the priorities of our political and social betters.

But....when I look at the photo of the little dude in his Harry Potter robes, I can't help but feel compassion for him. I wonder what the outcome will be for him when he gains some life experience and, one would hope, a greater self-knowledge and some degree of empathy for others.

[kua]

Liam has stated on Twitter that he has not applied to the programme. Little Owen and others have gone after The Times journalist, Lucy Bannerman, @timeslucy.

It appears Liam has a loose grasp of the truth...or is well on his way to a career in politics. Deny, Deny, Deny