to not understand how it is legal for the Daily Mail to pull stories from Mumsnet?

[CopperHandle]

Surely its breaching some kind of privacy law? I couldn't copy someone's post and put it on a blog and reversing the situation, if I were to promote my own blog/writing on here it would be taken down so how is it possible for the Fail to repeatedly get away with taking information off here and using it?
And blatantly linking to the site too! Using people's usernames etc etc.

I know that they are scumbags anyway, but I can't understand how they get away with it?

Sorry Copper but breaching privacy law?
You've read newspapers and magazines before haven't you?
Do you think all the photographs in magazines and papers are posed for?
All the stories from good, honest journalism?
That every subject in any headline, article or feature has consented to having their lives turned into a tale/entertainment/titillation for the general public?

I think you're being a bit naïve.
Even those who agree to be in magazines or papers have no control over the finished article.

Daily Mail isn’t even a newspaper anymore. It’s just a crap clickbaity content machine. Even Buzzfeed has higher standards of journalistic integrity.

Unfortunately, they can screenshot anything they like and stick it in their rag. It’s like if you’re walking down a busy street, anyone can take a photograph of you, there’s no expectation of privacy.

The only ray of hope is that they seem to have moved onto Reddit and the Whisper app now. I guess they have more salacious stuff on there.

What privacy? This is a public forum.

You can't see how publishing something in a news article written by someone on a forum for advise is invading their privacy?

Or reverse, the posters here linking to news articles?

Both sites are open - are you saying I shouldnt use MN articles to eg my FB or Twitter despite MN having a FB acount with a share function

My point is more that the Daily Mail are publishing people's discussions without explicit permission

But they don't need express permission. As soon as you post something on the internet, it's there for anyone to read, copy, put in a newspaper or shout from the rooftops.

If you don't want what you write here to be potentially shared that way, either NC and make yourself as anonymous as possible or don't write it in the first place.

As much as I hate the Fail, they're not doing anything wrong. Neither are all the other online newspapers or websites who copy stuff off here all the time.

TheDailyMailAreMassiveCunts just laughed out loud at your username

I'm going to have to change mine now in tribute!

It's just a bit gossipy and lazy when the DM pick things up from here.

You invade your own privacy by putting content online.

If you can be bothered, do a search in Site Stuff; there was a statement yonks ago from HQ saying why it is allowed to happen. I cba

If you want privacy then posting on a page with millions of users is probably not the best idea. Mumsnet is huge and threads are widely shared on fb and twitter before you even consider other media sources using it. If you’re writing something you don’t want your mother in law/ husband/ friend/ neighbour to read and recognise themselves then you shouldn’t put it on such a public site.

Some people see Mumsnet as some kind of private safe space even the areas that are supposed to be less visible are still easily accessible to everyone. When I first joined and didn’t know what people were talking about a very quick google search told me.

Because MNHQ own the copyright to everything you post and they allow it.

They don't own the copyright. We each retain the copyright to our own posts. You grant MNHQ a non-exclusive licence to use your words in specified ways including publishing them on the website. Check the Ts&Cs. This is absolutely standard for all social media. They couldn't publish your posts without that permission.

When we quote each other in posts we are taking advantage of "fair use" provisions in copyright law. When the DM (more often the MailOnline, FWIW, which as I have been reminded this week is a legally separate entity) quotes us it is taking advantage of the same provisions. As long as the quotations are snippets rather than an entire thread, and always properly attributed, they're absolutely within the law. That's completely separate to the issue of who owns the underlying copyright in the created work.

If anyone wants to get into a big discussion about this, I can recommend some excellent IP solicitors

They won't publish something that is going to generate interest/site hits from someone with a username like this. Just add something similar to your username.

I couldn't copy someone's post and put it on a blog

One of the biggest sites for young people (I can't handle it at all) is tumblr, whose entire premise is built on people copying blogposts.

Just an aside: the Mirror have been known to delight in quoting users with anti-DM NCs ...!

Oh really, shit.

'Privacy' ? try googling your user name mumsnet. Eek.

It isnt just the DM that lift stories. Most tabloids have I think at some point.

This isnt a private space. It's a public open anonymous internet forum.

This has been done to death.

They won't publish something that is going to generate interest/site hits from someone with a username like this. Just add something similar to your username.

Actually they do, just blank out the user names

Bollocks, so basically, if you don't want the papers to lift your story then don't post.

I have also seen the papers publish comments with fuckoffdailymail type usernames, they just blank them out like they often do with sweary ones.

putting information in the public defence does not give everyone else the automatic right to use.

It's true that it's not just the Daily Mail who lift stories from here, but for some reason so many people on here love to claim that they HATE the Mail and never read it.

Funny how at least once a week someone will know exactly what has appeared in the paper and report about it on here!

The paper has some excellent journalists. Richard Littlejohn is hilarious in his take on modern life.

The health section on Tuesdays is very informative, and Money Mail on Wednesdays has won awards for their journalism.

Btw I don't work for the Mail!

I think there has to be agreement from MN because if not surely they could sue for breach of copyright. What you write is the copyright of MN and not yours. If it was yours then you could object to the DM printing it. But copyright belongs to MN. That's what I'd understand.

hmm so they like quoting the usernames?

maybe:

"DailymaillovestheEU"

"DailymailbetraysBrexit"
etc

"dailymailarelooneylefties"

would be safer?

Yesterday I had email from a magazine and they had lifted the story from the daily fail who had lifted it from mumsnet

Yeah it’s certainly not just the DM. Mirror, Metro etc do it too. Although most of them just recycle content. Search for Mumsnet in Google and hit the news tab. Dozens of stories.

Can’t belive I’d ever see anyone sticking up for Littlejohn on these forums. You couldn’t make it up!

Privacy? Anyone can read this site.