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AIBU?

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AIBU to be annoyed with manipulative PILs?

109 replies

ginghamstarfish · 22/11/2017 13:09

PILs live a 2 hour drive away (horrible dangerous drive especially in bad weather, very rural/hilly on tiny narrow roads). They are fit and active, wealthy, (eg just flew first class on longhaul hols). FIL had a minor day surgery procedure booked for this week, and would not be able to drive himself home after it, and MIL does not drive. No shortage of taxi firms in their town, they have many friends there etc, but they manipulated my DH into taking 2 days off work and acting as an unpaid taxi service. As they know full well, it took only 'oh, don't know what we'll do ...' etc for him to feel he had to offer. Yes, his decision but that's the way he is and we all know it (and shouldn't take advantage of his kind nature). I said he should tell them about Red Cross transport if they don't want to pay for taxis, as I have used for many hospital appointments when I could not drive after recent surgery. This prompted 'why do you hate my parents' etc so I can't say anything about it now without coming across as a cold-hearted evil cow. But I'm annoyed! Visiting someone who's ill, yes of course, that's a different matter entirely, but this is literally just going there as a chauffeur - 2 hours to get there the day before - they insisted he arrive for lunchtime, (and very early hospital appt next morning), 1 hour each way to hospital, back to the house to wait with MIL, 1 hour each way back to hospital to collect FIL, then he will drive 2 hours home tonight in the dark (on the 'death road' as I think of it) as he can't have another day off, and will arrive back completely knackered. I might be coming across here as unsympathetic but it's really bugged me as it seems so selfish and demanding. Perhaps I should ask them to come here and drive me to my next hospital appointment?

OP posts:
viques · 22/11/2017 13:54

well, yes they could have got a cab. but maybe your OH wanted to be with his mother to reassure her while his dad was in surgery, or perhaps he wanted to be nearby in the remote case that something went wrong, or wanted to reassure himself that all was well with his father after the surgery, that the surgery had gone well and that his elderly parents were safely back at home with everything they needed.

Or maybe he wanted to boil OPs piss. Who knows.

Twoich · 22/11/2017 13:56

They are his parents. YABU. If he doesn't have a problem then why do you. You sound resentful of them and want to poison your husband against them.

Allthebestnamesareused · 22/11/2017 13:56

Death road = road that you don't like driving on (but it is in fact - a road)

Man helps parents when father needs op.

Wife doesn't want him to and clearly there is a background if the DH asks why do you hate my parents so much?

Maybe one day when you are older your adult child will hope you (without permission from their OH).

Allthebestnamesareused · 22/11/2017 13:57

*help not hope!

whiskyowl · 22/11/2017 13:58

"yes they could have got a cab. but maybe your OH wanted to be with his mother to reassure her while his dad was in surgery, or perhaps he wanted to be nearby in the remote case that something went wrong, or wanted to reassure himself that all was well with his father after the surgery, that the surgery had gone well and that his elderly parents were safely back at home with everything they needed."

The parents are clearly sprightly and well-heeled - OP's post says so.

Adults can look after themselves. It is our job, as adults, to be a bit self-reliant and resilient. There are two of them as well - MIL is more than able to take care of FIL as she's fit and healthy.

Sallythedog · 22/11/2017 13:59

I'm into my eighth decade, as are most of my friends. I can honestly say that we all do everything we can to live our lives without calling on our dcs, as we know that they all lead busy lives - work, children, hobbies etc., but we all know that in the case of a real emergency, our dcs would be moving heaven and earth to help us. Honestly? I thought most parents were like that.

In the case of the OP, I think the PILs should be getting a taxi, and I completely understand her irritation.

whiskyowl · 22/11/2017 14:02

It's not a "real emergency" though, is it? I'm sure both OP and her DH would be there in a shot if it was. A routine bit of minor surgery is no kind of crisis. To emphasize: it is DAY SURGERY, so he will basically be going home with some paracetamol after a very short and minor procedure, accompanied by an adult who is more than competent to look after him.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 22/11/2017 14:02

Ceto, I don't care if they're in their 40s. They are his parents and he is entitled to have a relationship with them on whatever basis HE chooses. Wives/whatever do not take over annual leave entitlement nor have the right to stop their partners taking it. Looking after his parents is a very justified and kind reason.. and it's HIS leave to take.

There is nothing in the OP that says her husband doesn't make 'family time' (boak) either and I think you're projecting.

OP's husband gets to decided this. If his wife were less insensitive, she would say nothing if she has nothing supportive to say. I can't imagine treating my husband like this and I doubt that many women would - nor the other way around either.

sidesplittinglol · 22/11/2017 14:03

What's so wrong with him helping his father? His parents dedicated so many years of their lives to bring him up well and cared for him. And it looks like they did a good job too. How can you begrudge someone helping out their parents?
YABVVVU OP

LML83 · 22/11/2017 14:04

If my parent was in surgery I would be there and if i could also be useful for a lift I would do it.

It's not about affording a taxi it's about caring for your loved ones. I doubt they manipulated your dh. He likely wants to go to support them both. I would be really upset/hurt if my partner had your attitude to me helping my parents.

Sallythedog · 22/11/2017 14:04

That's my point whisky, it's not any kind of emergency at all.

Having re-thought it, I think what should be happening is the MIL learns to drive!

whiskyowl · 22/11/2017 14:06

Oops, sorry sally I completely misread your post! My apologies.

Redguitar2 · 22/11/2017 14:06

Why do you say they are manipulative? They asked him for help and he was willing to do it.

The thing is that they didn't outright ask for help. They simply said 'Oh I don't know what we'll do', knowing that DH would offer to help. Clearly we can't tell whether or not they were manipulating but OP knows them better than us and it may be PIL way of manipulating DH into helping. Not saying that's definitely the case, just explaining how it could be seen as manipulative.

I can understand OP. Particularly if It comes from DHs annual leave. Even if it doesn't that means unpaid leave, in which case you definitely aren't BU when his only purpose in going is to act as a taxi. I think if their only reason for asking was to be a taxi service, it's totally unfair on DH. If they'd said they'd like the company and help while FIL finds his feet then that's perfectly.

It also depends on the surgery and how serious it was. A heart op- YABU. A polyp removal- YANBU and they are taking the piss.
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User843022 · 22/11/2017 14:07

If my parents were 2 hrs away and one was having a minor op I'd happily take time off if possible and go to support them.

My df could easily get a taxi to the hospital but I'll always take him. It's nice to have company, people often feel worried and vulnerable going into hospital, it really doesn't matter if he is perfectly able to go on a long haul holiday.

KimmySchmidt1 · 22/11/2017 14:07

The thing is, you didn't marry them, you married him, so it seems to me your quarrel is with him and his spinelessness toward them. But at the end of the day if he is willing to do it, then its his problem that he is tired.

You should certainly not make any allowances for his tiredness - you have told him that you think he is not well enough to be their chauffeur this time, he is a grown man, if he wants to feel tired etc then that's up to him.

allthgoodusernamesaretaken · 22/11/2017 14:08

Doesn't sound like PIL are manipulative. DH agreed to help. No sign he felt taken advantage of

SilverSpot · 22/11/2017 14:10

Wow. Just wow. That you begrudge a child helping an elderly parent.

It is minor surgery. MIL can look after FIL. They can get a taxi to/from the airport.

It is completely crazy to take two whole days off work for this.

Ceto · 22/11/2017 14:11

LyingWitch, the point is the assumption that the parents are elderly with all the connotations that carries. Would you use that term to describe people in their 40s?

This obviously isn't a question of whether OP has a "right" to stop her husband doing this - legal rights self-evidently don't come into it. She's not claiming that she does. And if anyone is projecting, you are, in assuming that the parents need to be looked after.

Why the passive-aggressive "boak" after "family time", given that that's your expression, not mine?

CotswoldStrife · 22/11/2017 14:12

Wow! What is the real issue here OP, is that he's taken time off for his parents and not for you after your surgery? I can understand you feeling upset about that, but there's nothing wrong with looking after your parents.

VeganIan · 22/11/2017 14:13

My DF had surgery on his dodgy knee last year - he organised his own transport and care afterwards - I offered and he said he was all grown up now Grin

Trinity66 · 22/11/2017 14:14

Jeez he's looking after his sick dad get a grip. Why not think, "aren't I lucky to have such a caring husband" why are you bothered if he's not?

MadamMaltesers · 22/11/2017 14:14

It's their son what do you expect?..I hate all these in law bashing threads. I feel sorry for your husband having you as a wife tbh, dreadful behaviour.

Lesley1980 · 22/11/2017 14:14

I got about 1/3 down & I was also wondering why you hated his parents?

Your husband wants to look after his parents & I don't see what's wrong with that. Would he stop you looking after your parents?

Splinterz · 22/11/2017 14:15

Their age is irrespective really. Families help each other. But the Dil remains that DIL I hope I never get. We'll see in 20-30 years when she's got a DIL that cant stand the sight of her and seeks to marginalise her from her precious boys

MadamMaltesers · 22/11/2017 14:19

Exactly!