Should the teacher be saying this to 5/6 year olds?

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Hello.

Just a quick one, really. My 5 year old never used to say this to anyone considering it's never really said in the home - "use your common sense!"

I asked him, "who says that?," to which he responds "[Teacher's name]."

Do you think that a Year 1 primary school teacher should say things like that to 5/6 year olds, considering how rude and abrupt it is to say something like it? Personally, I find it quite ridiculous considering the fact that not even DS15's Year 10 secondary school teachers say things like that.

Cheers.

This is really difficult to say without breaking the talk guidelines...

AndhowcouldIeverrefuse
It is a bit rude and unhelpful. There is no such thing as common sense.

Eh? Do you want to deny what Aristotle said then?

So what was Aristotle, Romans, Descartes, Reid, Kant etc etc referring to when they wrote at length and used the concept of common sense which has resulted in the modern use of the term we have today?

FlowerPot1234 steps up to the wicket...

The ball comes down the crease...

WALLOP!

You're worried about the teacher being rude, yet you seem to have no qualms about being rude yourself?! Does it only apply to teachers of your child?

Are you Miss Rabbit OP?

I'm not sure that my 5 year old (when she was 5 mind you) would know what that actually meant.
If she did, then I think it's an ok thing to suggest to a child (especially when 26 of them are probably all asking the same silly 5 year old questions at the same time) - 'Miss, it's raining outside, shall I put my coat on?".

Now I know why DS2's yR teacher was at great pains to delicately explain to me that while an enquiring mind is a wonderful thing, it would be helpful if he didn't respond to every classroom interaction with a question. I know him well... he can answer many of his questions with a bit of logic and basic knowledge... aka common sense.

flowerpot i am not denying it exists as an idea. Not a reality. Can you provide links to direct quotes in original works that say unequivocally:
What is common sense
Where is it located (which brain hemisphere)
What are the rules that govern it

It is a lazy, vague concept used by all of us when we are feeling lazy, vague or patronising. It seems that philosophers have struggled with it through millenia so perhaps it wasn't the clearest thing to say to a small child.

AndhowcouldIeverrefuse

flowerpot i am not denying it exists as an idea. Not a reality. Can you provide links to direct quotes...
I'm not your librarian! I've given you a set of authors as a starter, just google their works, you'll find the direct quotes you need.

Where is it located (which brain hemisphere)
You really are playing with the wrong person here if you want to get into that realm. Constructs do not have to be located in a hemisphere (that's way too general by the way if you're trying to get into neuroscience territory...) to exist and to be of value in society. Do you send your child to school to gain knowledge? Yes? But knowledge doesn't exist does it! It's just an idea! Which hemisphere is where knowledge is located.. yadda yadda...

It is a lazy, vague concept used by all of us when we are feeling lazy, vague or patronising.
Speak for yourself. Please don't speak for me. Or the teacher here. Or others. It is a defined concept which I use when I wish someone to engage thought processes of a shared understanding and intelligent judgment.

I don't see many people using their common sense, so I think they need reminding whenever possible.

I rest my case flowerpot.

AndhowcouldIeverrefuse

I rest my case flowerpot.

Gosh, really? That was it? 😂

Well, that was an awful case you made there AndhowcouldIeverrefuse! Don't ever think of becoming a barrister will you?! 😂

Some people are convicted on their own statement.

You state there is such a thing as common sense and use the fact that it's been discussed by others as evidence, then refuse to elaborate on actual proof. More ink and brainpower have been used to discuss God and I and many others have yet to be persuaded of his (her? their? ) existence, or of the usefulness of the concept.

If there was such a thing as common sense we wouldn't have AIBU Now what sort of a world would that be? Certainly not the best possible one

you sound like the kind of parent commonly described as 'bit of a dick'

Pretty much.

flowerpot i am not denying it exists as an idea. Not a reality. Can you provide links to direct quotes in original works that say unequivocally:
What is common sense
Where is it located (which brain hemisphere)
What are the rules that govern it

It is a lazy, vague concept used by all of us when we are feeling lazy, vague or patronising. It seems that philosophers have struggled with it through millenia so perhaps it wasn't the clearest thing to say to a small child.

I realise that you're trying to sound terribly intelligent, but - what a load of utter shite ...

Just asked my 9 yo. She said it’s to “use your brain” and i asked her if it’s nice or mean and she said it’s a mean thing to say

Well that clears that up then. A 9 year old has spoken!
Sack the teacher! 😒

When children leave school....or horror of horrors,...ever get to play out on their own whilst still a child.....They will encounter people saying a lot worse to them than 'use your common sense'

I disagree with PP. 'Use your common sense' is rude. It implies that the person you are saying it to hasn't bothered thinking about it or is plain old stupid. I only say 'use your common sense' when I am very annoyed at someone. It's not ok to talk to children that way and it is not alright to be teaching children that phrase. Use your common sense!

If your goal as a teacher in this circumstance is to teach 4 year old children not to ask questions and provide them with a tool to discourage others from asking them questions you perhaps ought not to be a teacher.
No, I do not think you are being unreasonable to be concerned about this teacher talking to these very young children in this dismissive fashion. I hope you will speak to the teacher about the results of her teaching your son this technique.

Dragon I don’t recall anyone asking what your nine year old says.
My class put their completed work in the completed work box every lesson, every day. They have done this for two years. I still have children who ask me where they need to put their books! Obviously they need to use their common sense. But I do say “Where do you think I want you to put it?” Instead but it is bloody hard not to say use your common sense.

I'm gutted I always thought comment sense was a good thing as my primary school teacher told my mum I wasn't brainy but I had good commen sence! Mind that was 40 years ago when you used to get chalk board rubbers thrown at you!!

AndhowcouldIeverrefuse

Oh dear, you're back again. What on earth are you waffling about now?

then refuse to elaborate on actual proof.
No, I refused to be your personal librarian. I have signposted you to a selection of authors on this topic where you can find the quotes you desperately demand. One has to ask why you don't research those authors (and entire people, eg. the Romans!) and find the links you crave so much? They're there. Do your own research. Accept the pointers I have given you. Do just get on with it. One might almost assume you're too scared to do it, out of fear of being made to look rather silly when you do find the quotes.

If there was such a thing as common sense we wouldn't have AIBU

What???????

Oh dear you missed my quote. Seems you are not so familiar with the big names you felt the need to bring up in order to avoid answering any of my points. You haven't engaged with anything I have said. I can almost hear you say "use your common sense!" in a frustrated tone in order to end this discussion.