Dad taking dd to ladies toilet

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MN - help dh and I with a disagreement please.

When dd(4) needs the loo in a public place, he takes her to the ladies' loos. I told him that women don't like that and he should take her to the men's loo. Aibu or is he?

Except they are probably not ‘entitled’ Just struggling and made poor choices.

I've been in gents toilets and they are grim, smelly and have men with their dicks out in public. If your dh is alone and you can't bring dd, I'd recommend he brings the dd to the ladies. Is she old enough to use the toilet herself and he could stand outside the door to the ladies? Otherwise, could he ask another lady if she wouldn't mind helping your dd?

Valerrie thanks for answering those questions. I think then that stores need to address this by building at least one double cubicle in the non-disabled toilets so that people can fit buggies in. If they did, I think there would be a large reduction in non-disabled people using the disabled loo.

But I still believe that criteria for using disabled toilet are nowhere near as strict as for blue badge so some of the 'entitled mothers' may actually have disabilities themselves.

MyPoint I really can't work out whether or not you are kidding....

Why are men accepting them being so disgusting though?

If you have it in you to tell women to bugger off if they complain about you being in there why don't they have it in them to call the number on the wall and complain.

If this act goes through allowing people to self Id their way into the ladies loo where are your dhs gonna take your kids Then?

Why can't they just do something to get them sorted out rather than just say "oh the women will just have to lump it"

One final point here, regarding previous sightings of women taking their sons into toilets, each time I have reported it to security the women have each time been collared outside, one time a female security guard actually went into the toilets and demanded the women leave immediately (she was in the toilet too, yet she was told to leave then and there!)

Any woman who takes their son into a toilet is as bad as a man going into a female toilet

If you have children, you can't be doing what's always easiest for you.
Respect there are people's wives girlfriends daughters cousins etc in that toilet and their family, nor them themselves want male persons in that toilet, whatever age!

Argue all day long, like it looks like you all have.

But I warn you, I will shame you if I see it personally and do everything in my power as a member of public to make sure you get a good warning from security or the member of staff.

Finally, one last note, whatever defence anyone wants to argue or start, women taking males into the toilet is perverted and I would be seriously concerned if I knew someone who did it.
You can't have your cake and eat it, men not allowed to take daughters into toilets etc.
Women think they can get away with a lot more, tables are turning on that, slowly I admit but they are.

Being a women gives you no extra rights or privileges.

If you have a child, you have to deal with it, without letting it affect others.
Using a toilet that is designed JUST FOR women/female then that affects others.

I won't be coming back here, I only came after seeing the article in that media about this thread.
Just assured though, I see it and everyone will know you've done it as I make sure all the shoppers in the local area hear me shame you publicly 👍

I think disabled people have fought enough for their facilities, it’s about time entitled mothers started to fight for their own facilities rather than piggybacking off ours. No one has said stay home, they’ve said plan your journey and research where you’re going

Well said!

OTOH the comments section of the DM article is a scream. One person said disabled loos aren’t for disabled people. DM commenters really are thick as fuck aren’t they?

Older children (male) 1-12 years old going into female toilets to complete wrong and boarderline perverted

😂😂😂 my boy turns 1 soon. When I go in the toilet what do you propose I do with him, you big thicko? Leave him outside, the little pervert that he is 😂😂😂

A lot of places have the accessible toilet and the disabled toilet as one space so this wasn't an issue.

As explained by the link up thread. The accessible toilet is the disabled toilet. It is the same thing. Times are changing, 'labels' are changing. Even BB spaces are starting to be called accessible spaces, that doesn't mean they're a free for all.

Also thicko does that mean 13+ men are fine to go in the ladies?

but if people had no kids, who would look after you as you get older?

Massively OT but there’s no way my kids will be looking after me when I’m older. I wouldn’t do it to them

Massively OT but there’s no way my kids will be looking after me when I’m older. I wouldn’t do it to them

Sorry, that's not what I meant. I meant if nobody has kids there will be no younger generation. You can't keep using the whole 'you had a choice' argument because there have to be some children born at some point.

The other thing I wanted to point out is that many women suffer incontinence and other birth trauma. Those people are absolutely entitled to use disabled facilities and they are also entitled to use them and go to the toilet there when they double up as changing facilities. People with IBS can also use disabled toilets and their disabilities are not visible.

I suspect that some people on here would automatically assume that someone who comes out of a disabled loo with a buggy is a selfish entitled twat, but she may have a reason for using that toilet.

It's sharing facilitys.

Why is it always the disabled who have to share the facilities? Why not campaign for your own facilities?

Just entitled mothers then? No dads do this?

Always women getting fucking bitched about when they largely get fuck all help and are trying to cope.

Can I ask those who are disabled whether you regularly encounter significant queues when wanting to use the loo?
Yes.

Is it the case that the toilets are full of able bodied people who insist on using them?
Yes. Mother’s with prams, people using it as a changing room, people who said “ill only be a minute”, people who said “there was a queue”, kids who like to mess about, staff members using it so as to not be seen by the public in the other toilets, staff members using it to take their break/play on their phone, couples having sex and a number of other reasons.
Only very few times have I not been able to use the disabled toilet because another disabled person was using it.

Well dads just get sympathy don't they.

Poor man getting a pasting just trying to do the right thing with his kids

Isn't he a good dad helping out like that

Meanwhile the women have to suck it up.

😂😂😂😂 at all of MyPoint posts.

Wild I actually agree that having children isn’t a choice in the definitive sense of the word. It’s what we’re designed for, and people often use this as a defence to belittle mothers and make life hard for people with children. I don’t like the phrase ‘having children is a choice’ at all

I feel like I’m banging my head against the wall. Do you really think the people who saying don’t use the disabled toilets are not aware of hidden disabilities? I have crohn’s and sometimes I use a wheelchair. You can’t tell from looking at me normally. You can tell when I shit myself however. Funnily enough, I’m also a mother who has to deal with planning ahead for my day out.

Oh crap - dh is in the daily fail. Now I definitely can't tell him I started this thread.
I can't imagine DH is a pervert to be honest. I think he just can't see the harm and thinks I'm just nagging him when I tell him I don't think he should use the ladies.
He's just not thinking of women/girls who might feel uncomfortabel.
I told him some #metoo truths today and he was quite surprised when I told him the things that happened to me on a regular basis when I was younger (arse pinching, crotch grabbing,etc, the usual stuff really).

Just entitled mothers then? No dads do this?

I was talking about my own experiences, sorry. I'm presuming some do but I can't really comment because I haven't seen any, I've only seen mothers.

@WildBluebelles I do agree in that sense, but when people compare the hardships of having children voluntarily to being involuntarily disabled, it pisses me off.

I personally would have no problem seeing a dad in the ladies accompanying a young child. But I do understand why others might not like this.