To hate the now common usage of "santa"

[Creambun2]

Just this really. Santa is a vulgar Americanism.

What was wrong with father Christmas ffs.

I’m definitely not saying everyone who calls him Father Christmas is an uptigh, middle class try-hard, mind.

Americans tend to try to make everything non-offensive "oh my gosh", "tidbits",

I thought "tidbits" just came about naturally as the voicing from the "b" spread to the "t" and it became a "d".

(Or however linguists would explain it )

In Welsh it's Sion Corn or Santa. Farther Christmas seems very English to me.

"I'm Scottish and in my mid sixties.

It was always Santa Claus - Father Christmas was unheard of in my childhood
Not an Americanism ffs."

Exactly. I'm the same age and Scottish too. Father Christmas sounds totally alien to me!

Personally I think there’s a lot of defensiveness coming from the Santa-lovers on this thread.

Well Crumbs, if you want to throw the inflatable snowman, plastic tat, glorious, tinselly, breadcrumb coated, sparkly Santa hatted twinkliness out of Christmas, that's fine. But why are those things about excess and self indulgence?

Happy Holidays!

I say Father Christmas, prefer it to Santa.

And I also hate Xmas, much prefer Christmas.

The term Father Christmas really makes me cringe.

My weird mind maybe but I think it sounds perverted

I hate Santa. It's farmer Christmas.
Always will be to us

He's a farmer now? 😂

Couldn't agree more OP.

Nice name oy

Father Christmas sound stuck up and poncey. My mum's in her 70s and it was Santa for her as it is for me in my 40s

Creambun, what's vulgar is the twee stick up your bum. It's attitudes like yours that make the rest of the world assume a British accent is a classist snob.

YABU. Nothing wrong with Santa!

At all!

Captain Christmas? Fucking epic.

That's what I will call him from now on.

Has never been "Father Christmas" in Scotland. Always Santa.

and proud to be uptight middle class but I'm definitely NOT a tryhard.

It’s always been Santa here although DH is bright ginger and I call him Fanta baws

"Santa Claus" comes from Dutch, where the name was "Sante Klaas". The word evolved into Santa—which happens to be the feminine form of Saint in some languages, but this is just a coincidence.
The "Americanization" of this figure came with depicting him as a fat guy with a white beard in a red suit. So if this is your mental image of the Santa/Father Christmas/St Nicholas you celebrate, then you truly have been Americanized!

Father Christmas isn't middle class.

Bloody hell OP we’ve just finished putting MN right about Halloween being an American import (for the umpteenth time) and now we need to correct you on this too?

Santa is not a recent American import.

I’m Scottish and in my 40s. I have never said Father Christmas.

My Scottish parents, in their 70s have never said Father Christmas.

My Scottish Grandparents, now sadly deceased but who would be all over 100yo if they were alive never said Father Christmas.

If you prefer Father Christmas that marvellous, have at it but please don’t embarrass yourself by saying Santa is an Americanism.

this stuff is deeply tiresome year after year. Why is there such a lack of cultural awareness throughout the UK? It’s not that big a country!

I say Father Christmas, but I can't dictate what my DC call him.

I am 40 odd non American and have always said Santa i am common though and obviously vulgar

@Creambun2 you're obviously one of the reasons why Scottish people held a referendum a couple years ago.