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Calling an unborn baby girl "a little bitch"

191 replies

Pandoraphile · 11/11/2017 16:06

And then going on to refer to older nieces as "little bitches"?

Overheard the nail salon and I couldn't believe my ears. It wasn't being said nastily, it came across as a term of endearment Shock

AIBU to have been shocked??

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 12/11/2017 03:38

Tinkly you are right. It is a step on the road to complete devaluation.

kaytee87 · 12/11/2017 06:45

It’s not bitch it’s biatch ie strong independant female.

Biatch does not mean strong independent female Confused

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3fterm=biatch&amp=true

Wormysquirmy · 12/11/2017 07:05

It's not very pleasant, agreed, but I'm sure I've said similar to my husband after a bad day. In fact he has occasionally called them "the little turds" under his breath.

In some contexts, awful, but usually just stressed parents letting off steam, albeit very crudely

Wilburissomepig · 12/11/2017 07:16

*Not glaswegian, but I'm surprised you have time to be on MN having to keep up with terms of endearment 99% of glasgow use though grin

But I am from a different part of Scotland where 87% of people use the word cunt as a term of endearment*

Never heard this (I'm a Weegie). I'm not saying you're wrong BTW but I've just never heard this myself

I fucking hate people using terms like bitch/cunt/sexy etc to describe children, I really do. I swear like a trooper, but never in front of, or about my kids.

strugglingtodomybest · 12/11/2017 07:18

I totally get that you can call them rude names as a term of endearment, but for me personally, never bitch because it's just such a horrible misogynistic word.

A few years ago, I had to deal with an upset 10 year old round my house. He didn't understand why his friends were upset with him after he called them a bunch of twats. Turns out that his mum calls him a twat and so he really had no comprehension that he'd done something horrible.

BernardBlacksHangover · 12/11/2017 07:22

The weirdest ‘compliment’ I ever got was when I was younger (and a lot slimmer) and someone called me a “skinny wee shite”. It was meant as a compliment Confused.

cluelessnewmum · 12/11/2017 08:21

Think the issue with this sort of thing is it permeates how the parent perceives the child - ie the frustrating things a child is doing is their "fault",which in turn reflects their treatment of them.

The only friends I have who have referred their to their kids as little shits and arse holes have also been those who have exibited pretty inconsistent, lazy parenting. Maybe it is a regional thing but where I'm from I think it is part of a wider parenting issue.

Sleepybedhead · 12/11/2017 17:45

I've never heard the C word used as a term of endearment in any part of Scotland - and I have lived in different areas. Not the norm for sure.

Whowhatwhy · 12/11/2017 17:49

Hate it too op. My sister used to call my dn's 'vermin'. Just foul foul language to refer to the people you're supposed to love more than all others.

exaltedwombat · 12/11/2017 17:51

If it was being used as a term of endearment, what business of yours is it to be offended?

Whowhatwhy · 12/11/2017 18:03

There's a thread on here about poor 18 month old Elsie whose adoptive father used language like that about her before killing her. People on that thread are appalled that anyone would say such things in reference to a child. Using derogatory language about a child is at best disrespectful and at worst could be indicative of something much worse. There's absolutely no need.

spankhurst · 12/11/2017 18:07

TBH I think calling children revolting names like cunt and bitch is bordering on emotional abuse.

valuerangeweetabixandmilk · 12/11/2017 18:18

Here too!

keffie12 · 12/11/2017 18:59

I would say to my late mom they are being "an f nightmare today" or "f pains in the arses" though not in front of them.

I would sometimes say when they were fighting and I was exasperated 'FFS will you stop fighting"

They knew not to use that word. They were never called names although I would sometimes throw in an f innl what was part of the sentence and not about them.

I use to apologise after for using the f word.

To call a child words such as these in this topic is disgusting. Put me in with the pearl grabbers. I am quite happy to be there.

There was a woman at our school used to talk to her children in swear words. It was horrible and cringeworthy

Insomnibrat · 12/11/2017 19:06

I worked with a woman who referred to her adult daughters and grand daughters as 'little bitches'. I would hear her talking on the phone to them sometimes and openly calling them 'bitches' is a very airy, breezy way with no apparent malice intended.

I hated hearing it, like nails on a blackboard, but clearly an accepted norm in her family. I still find it odd.

Whowhatwhy · 12/11/2017 19:07

I have managed to survive 11 years without my child ever hearing me swear. Why would you swear and then apologise? Do you have no self control??

StrangeLookingParasite · 12/11/2017 19:08

I think it's hideous.

Countrygirl38 · 12/11/2017 19:12

It is an awful thing to say. I agree with you OP

valuerangeweetabixandmilk · 12/11/2017 19:13

Who
I swear. I dont like it but it happens. I dont know how not to swear it is a way of expressing frustration and would like to stop. But the odd FFS and bloidy hell is very very different than calling someone a bitch. Thats an awful expression.

strugglingtodomybest · 12/11/2017 19:15

I have managed to survive 11 years without my child ever hearing me swear. Why would you swear and then apologise? Do you have no self control??

Oh fuck off.

Grin
Whowhatwhy · 12/11/2017 19:20

I just find it completely unnecessary. If you don't want your child speaking like that, why model it to them? I work in a school in a very challenging area where for some students, "fuck" is as well used as "and". The reason for this is that, in most cases, it's their expectation of how people speak to each other. In fact, you can find yourself in some difficult conversations when you say it isn't nice to use that language and are told "well my mum does- are you saying she isn't nice?"

Speak as you wish your children to speak. Simple as that really.

DogPerson · 12/11/2017 19:21

That poor baby and the nieces. Bitch is a nasty thing to day about children, no matter how they behave, they're child ffs.

The worst I ever called my toddler was a little bugger, and even that was in my head.

valuerangeweetabixandmilk · 12/11/2017 19:25

It is unnecessary. But its a hard habit to break and the intention isnt horrible even if the words are. My parents used physical punishment when they were angry. I never have but I swear. I hate it tbh but very rarely manage not to as the pressure i feel is huge. If anyone has ideas wouls love to hear them (sorry to hijack thread)

teabagsmummy · 12/11/2017 19:26

Doddle jump- certainly not a term of endearment in Aberdeen or any other part of Scotland I'm aware off!
Op it is awful I wouldn't like it either if I heard it

user1497199406 · 12/11/2017 19:57

I have a close friend who will refer to her teenage son frequently as an arsehole! Because he can be! A lot depends on tone and context.

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