Calling an unborn baby girl "a little bitch"

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And then going on to refer to older nieces as "little bitches"?

Overheard the nail salon and I couldn't believe my ears. It wasn't being said nastily, it came across as a term of endearment

AIBU to have been shocked??

No that is nasty i wouldnt call my dc anything of the sorts.

All a bit vulgar and not how you should be referring to kids.

YANBU. I would hate to hear anything like that. But I haven't, to be honest.

I can't imagine anyone I know ever speaking about/to their children like that, even as a 'joke.'

I think I hit a raw nerve with @OnionShite She hasn't stopped banging on about what I said! (Nearly 2 hours and 70 posts ago!)

Hey onionshite - do you want to borrow my rucksack to carry around that chip on your shoulder hun?

Try calling your managing director/high court judge/US immigration officer a bitch if you don’t believe me.

Why would I be talking to an US immigration official ? Bizarre analogy.

Bitch is fairly well used, whether you like it or not, or whether you use it when up before the beak

Shocked at the amount of posters that think it’s ok or do it themselves. I work on a psych ward and I’m not easily shocked, I hear ‘vulgar’ things daily and I am certainly not a pearl clutcher.

Acknowledging something is commonplace littlechocola is different from using it or approving of it.

Said without true malice it can be funny. Let go of your pearls dear!
No, the words are offensive and its not funny. Kids go through a phase of thinking its sophisticated to use them a lot, then most grow out of it, and realise swearing a lot doesn't make you adult, it makes you an adolescent experimenting with naughty words.

I think it's absolutely vile. I'm not a pearl clutcher by any means, but the thought of anybody calling an unborn baby a "little bitch" is just revolting. I can't imagine how it could possibly be a term of endearment .

I have heard "little shit" used in a more endearing way however, so maybe it's down to regional differences & what we are more used to hearing?

It’s horrible. Why would you make nasty derogatory comments about a child? Anyone who thinks bitch is a term of endearment quite frankly is either stupid, a chav, or most likely both! How on earth is calling an unborn child something like that funny???

I don’t like that word for baby girls or little girls. I don’t even like the word used for dogs!

Would never call DD that.

I don't think it is 'pearl clutchy' or whatever to not wish to use swear words as terms of affection for your children. If anyone ever called my children these terms I would be very angry.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe I manage it. I wouldn't use it about anyone else's children. I just don't see the issue. They are words said between my friends surprisingly as terms of endearment. I have no idea how it started but it's never said to be unkind.

I'd like to assure you that 99% of Glaswegians do not use the c word as a term of endearment.

I shared a flat with. Glaswegian who’s use of the word was liberal, and imaginative. “That guy dances like a ...”. Which lead to an interest8ng conversation about exactly how one does that.

Anyway, I challenged her on it as I hate the word and she confirmed it was something her mum called her as a term of endearment. As did most of her family and folk she knew. Many other Glaswegians have said the same. Not suggestion it is everyone who does it, but it’s certainly more than 1%

I think it’s awful, it’s a disrespect shown even before the child is born. How can children be expected to respect others when their environment teaches them not to? I’m sure this was out of earshot of the children, but I bet it’s said where they can hear, too.

It will be confusing for those children to grow up thinking "bitch" is a funny term of endearment. They'll have a shock when they call their friends or teacher that at school and get told it's rude and unacceptable.

I've never in my life heard this used to describe a child though!

Vile and inappropriate, I hate it when people do that, says a lot about them.

I would aim not to use it. Little monster or sod was about as far as I went when mine were small and acting up.

My exception to that rule came when I was heavily pregnant with DD2 and contracted a form of pneumonia which had me in severe pain with a partial lung collapse and struggling to breathe properly. To top that off, DD would be kicking me hard in the ribs from inside and she certainly got called all the names under the sun for that. Never after she was born though. It was the pain and discomfort speaking.

I don’t like “bitch” because it’s gendered. I don’t have any problem with people being rude about their unborn child though - fetuses often do things that cause their mothers physical pain, or put our health at risk. I had no problem doing whatever I was told to do to keep DS safe, but that doesn’t mean I can’t moan about it.

Once your child is old enough to understand I probably would switch to “silly sausage” and “little monkey” rather than swearing. But that’s because kids don’t understand nuance, not because there’s anything intrinsically wrong with it.

Totally wrong - we call ours 'kicky twat'. Far more descriptive.

Onion, you're not qualified to give anything more than your opinion. Which I do not share.

Marriedwith, fair enough but if you do that in public then some people will make assumptions about you and your parenting. It's their opinion and it doesn't really matter, but it will be there.

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Topsey and Sashkin, I get that - and it's not the same thing as calling cognisant child names. And rib pain is the worst.

I'm glad to hear the vast majority think it's unacceptable!

People can say "Oh isn't he just lovely???" and say it in a way where they are not being entirely honest I.e little shit just hit my child. This is more acceptable than I love my little shit?? Ie he's a bit naughty at times but damn I love him!

I quite often ask my toddler why she's being such a dick.

It's funny to me because it's both accurate and inappropriate. I will stop soon though because she's picking up language at a frightening pace and it's not something I want her asking other toddlers at nursery. Even if the thought of it does make me lol.

I'm from Glasgow. Cunt is very definitely used liberally and affectionately by a lot of people.