to think that nobody died from travelling backwards on a train?

[EvelynWardrobe]

Why do people make a fuss about this? The trains I travel on aren’t full, so I get to watch this pantomime of ninnies quite frequently.

Today I’m facing in the direction of travel at a table seat, empty seat beside me and two empty seats on the opposite side of the table. A couple get on, she sits opposite me and he insists I move my bag (the train is less than 50% occupied) so he can sit beside me.

I’m considering doing some man-spreading, even though I’m not one.

I haven't read all the thread but really people who have paid for a ticket can sit where they want and it's really not your place to judge their reasons why.

Assuming you didn't pay for a seat for your bag shift it.

I hate bag seat hoggers. All the ones I gave seen always pretend they can't see you standing up and do a huge dramatic sigh when asked to move their bag.

One such person let my disabled walks with a stick elderly mother stand up on a very rough train journey recently because their bag deserved a seat more....

Sometimes I wish I COULD throw up immediately when going backwards (or sidewards) or travelling in the back of a car or a coach with obstructed view or on a ferry - perhaps then I'd feel a bit better.

It's the constant dizziness, giddiness, whooziness and feeling like you're going to vomit that's worse than actually doing it imho.

I do have some medication that helps now, but sometimes I'm a numpty and forget to take it in time or go to the box only to see I've run out or something.

I don't give a stuff if anyone thinks I'm a drama queen or an attention seeker anyway, so judge away.

BTW I don't know who Bishop Brennan is but I am very happy that his arse is being honoured with your screen name

I honestly don't understand why anyone would be annoyed by someone else asking to sit in a forward-facing seat. It's something so small that could make a bit difference to someone who suffers with travel sickness. How unkind do you have to be to take offence?

It seems to me that some people are far too keen to rush off to the GP and/or take medication for things that can be managed in a different way.

The NHS website actually only advises going to the GP if the motion sickness is severe - e.g. continues for the rest of the day. I certainly wouldn't bother the GP for it, even if I know motion sickness will cause me a migraine, it's just something to be dealt with later. Most people suffering sickness aren't likely to 'projectile vomit' everywhere, much like a pregnant or elderly person isn't likely to drop if you don't offer them a seat on a bus/train. But, you know, a bit of understanding and human kindness etc. Unless your bag needs a space of course, priorities and all that...

Hopefully the posters who are ignorant to how facing backwards affects people will have a little bit more insight and empathy after reading this thread.

Can only hope anyway.

I'm seeing my GP in an hour, for more serious issues. Im going to show her the fake mumsnet GP's posts. She likes a bit of comedy and her reaction when I came too see her with my travel sickness was not to call people liars.

sure, show her if you like wasting surgery time. I don’t think she would be impressed. She would also agree with me, Let me know what she says.

In regards with the motion sickness There is nothing wrong with going to the GP with anything issue if it affects your life.

I have never died travelling backwards on a train (that I know of).

But I have been as sick as a parrot. Don't even get me started on the Virgin Pendolinos. Pendolino + backwards seat = 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

I'm travel sick in the back seat of cars and none too clever in the front passenger seat either.

I can confirm it's definitely not attention seeking behaviour. I can't abide other people and wish they'd all fuck off to hell out of my train carriage and leave me in peace.

@BitOutOfPractice fictional bishop Len Brennan who got kicked up the arse in Father Ted.

Ah! I see! I could have just googled I suppose!

To slightly misqoute Monty Python and the Holy Grail "I died of travel sickness once, but I got better"

WTF @disahsterdahling? I’m a fucking wheelchair user who has to face backwards. When I face backwards I puke. I didn’t “rush” to the GP, but do tell me how I could manage this a different way?? Would you just prefer people like me to stay at home permanently?

I hate sitting backwards on a train or bus, it makes me dizzy, and that increases my anxiety. Your bag does not need a seat. If it's not bad for you, you move to the backwards seat!

Foodtime are you aware that by posting here you are breaking GMC guidelines? They recommend that if you identify yourself as a doctor on social media you should include your full name. I just think that's something you should know, if you are in fact a GP and want to continue claiming you are a doctor whilst spouting goady rubbish

HTH

foodtime

I'm paying for an hour appointment. Not that it's any of your concern. I've known her 10 years. She will not agree with you as she didn't when I went to see her 2 years ago regarding the travel sickness. You carry on being such a delight though, you're amusing us all.

Why on earth should people with travel sickness have to take tablets and face backwards just so you don't have to move your bag? Who do you think you are?!

I get very travel sick facing backwards in trains. The nausea builds and builds. Won't often be sick but sometimes I will. Hopefully next time I'll reserve that pleasure for someone like you, OP, who has refused to move their bag.

I also get sick:
In the back of cars
In planes on take off and landing
On coaches
On boats - any boats - within 10 minutes I'm puking and I can't stop. I never go anywhere on a boat.

Why would I make all that up? Just to sit in a forward-facing seat or the front of the car?! I'm not 5. Although apparently plenty of you saying this is 'not a thing' are.

I've never felt sick going backwards on a train but my husband does, it's so strange! I'm always nice to people who want to sit next to me if I'm in a position similar to you though as I understand the upset my husband goes through if he has to sit backwards... x

StepAway be honest, you just want to ride shotgun and have loads of attention.

Why would someone go to the GP when they know the easiest thing to do is to face forwards/sit in the front seat.

If I went to my GP and said I got motion sickness when I faced backwards on the bus or sat in the back of the car what do you think they'd tell me to do?

Pointless waste of GP's time.

I may not throw up (though I have done before) but I sit in silence with raging nausea and a headache. Luckily most of our buses only have front facing seats, and I'm not often a back seat passenger in a car.

I'm so glad it doesn't affect me on trains too, as they're always packed.

Can I ask do any of you work for a train company dishing out the reservations on train seats?

You know, where you get to pick ‘ forward facing’ or ‘backward facing’ etc when you book on line?

I always pick ‘ forward facing ‘ because even though I’m not going to vom on your bag after 20 secs I’m going to feel rough. Probably a headache. ( not that I’d entertain wrestling an appt out of my GP practice to share that with them ) So I always always always pick ‘forward facing‘ and do they ever give me one????

You guessed right. They do not.

It’s not you is it Heart ?

In regards with the motion sickness There is nothing wrong with going to the GP with anything issue if it affects your life.

Oh good to know, next time I can't open a jar, I'll just wait six weeks to see my doctor seeing they will apparently help with 'anything issue' in my life (especially since they won't fix the issue that means I can no longer fully use my dominant hand).

I really can't believe you're a GP. Certainly not a very good one by all sounds.

I always pick ‘ forward facing ‘ because even though I’m not going to vom on your bag after 20 secs I’m going to feel rough. Probably a headache. ( not that I’d entertain wrestling an appt out of my GP practice to share that with them ) So I always always always pick ‘forward facing‘ and do they ever give me one????

That's my life.

If not provided with the forward facing seat I requested, I usually just go and find an unreserved one.

There is nothing wrong with going to the GP with anything issue if it affects your life

Given the pressure on GP appointments I disagree.

I feel very strongly that we should try to manage things ourselves if we know they are not serious. If sitting backwards makes you feel sick and sitting forwards does not, you don't need to go to the GP, you just need to sit forwards.

Unless trains are always so full (with people, not bags) that you can't get a forward facing seat. Then I'd suggest a pharmacist as a first port of call to get travel sickness pills over the counter, if they don't work, and it's really bad, you go to the doctor.

I got motion sickness as a child on swings, I was also sick on the Thames.

Makes me horrifically sick but then I have BPPV, so I would be on the floor at the other end of the journey and unable to function. That’s why I sit facing the way we’re travelling.

Good enough explanation for you? Can you put your judgey pants back in the drawer?

I've never heard travel sickness described as 'attention seeking' before.