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Charlie Sheen allegedly sodomoised a 13 year old Corey Haim

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brasty · 09/11/2017 09:02

It is in the Daily Mail,so presumably can be said without all the usual hints on threads about Corey Haim.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5062721/Charlie-Sheen-sodomized-Corey-Haim-13-set-Lucas.html

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Sarahjconnor · 09/11/2017 09:52

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sinceyouask · 09/11/2017 09:54

was shocked to read that people in Hollywood who work with children have no DBS check
What's the US equivalent of a DBS check? In any case, CRB, DBS etc- all they are good for is showing whether someone had, at the time of the check being made, ever actually been caught. Not to say we shouldn't have them, we should, but they do seem to lull people into a false sense of security.

brasty · 09/11/2017 09:54

Yes I know other ones were deleted before the DM article. But normally posting something providing a link to a published article in a national publication, legally protects you.
And I know there is clear evidence that I believe. But I used the word allegedly, to help the thread stay up.

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CoughLaughFart · 09/11/2017 10:05

Given that the alleged victim is dead, where can this go? And why has someone else decided it’s their place to make this accusation when Corey Haim is tragically in no position to decide if he wants this made public?

CoughLaughFart · 09/11/2017 10:11

But I used the word allegedly, to help the thread stay up.

And presumably because it IS just an allegation?

Chrys2017 · 09/11/2017 10:14

As it's all hearsay and the alleged victim is dead, there's no point whatsoever in discussing it is there?

GrommitsEarsHurt · 09/11/2017 10:18

Why are so many giving the OP a hard time?

Nobody is being forced to read this. Not all of us are on MN every day, so we are not all aware that there have been precious threads.

Can't we just discuss the allegations made in the DM, rather than questioning the existence of this thread in the first place?

GrommitsEarsHurt · 09/11/2017 10:18

Previous, not precious!

pipistrell · 09/11/2017 10:20

If we applied the principle of "is there any point discussing this?" to every thread on MN, it would be

Sarahjconnor · 09/11/2017 10:21

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MargaretTwatyer · 09/11/2017 10:24

Still rest assured that if this was a woman, it wouldnt be reported until conviction.

Considering this appears to have been kept a secret for more than 30 years isn't that a bit of a fucking stupid thing to say? And part of the reason we're finding out about it is because confidentiality doesn't apply because Corey Haim is fucking dead apparently as a result of much of the mental trauma inflicted on him by attacks?

pipistrell · 09/11/2017 10:25

Still rest assured that if this was a woman, it wouldnt be reported until conviction.

Yes wtf is that about?

A WA member committed suicide this week because of allegations against him of sexual misconduct made by a woman

NumberEightyOne · 09/11/2017 10:29

I hope that if any crimes have been committed the perpetrators are prosecuted and this is never allowed to happen again.

MargaretTwatyer · 09/11/2017 10:30

Given that the alleged victim is dead, where can this go? And why has someone else decided it’s their place to make this accusation when Corey Haim is tragically in no position to decide if he wants this made public?

They might still be able to prosecute. There have been successful prosecutions of rapists both in the U.K. and the US, specifically California, in which the victim has been deceased (Cheri Linden in the U.K.).

If Haim left behind accounts of the rape (which I think it's been suggested he did) prospects for a successful prosecution will be quite high).

WomblingThree · 09/11/2017 10:33

WTF? There’s masses of attacks on women being reported on.

Oh and @brasty, didn’t you realise you have to read every single thread on the whole of MN before being allowed to post anything (or you have to ask permission from the thread police).

Sarahjconnor · 09/11/2017 10:33

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BabyDreams2018 · 09/11/2017 10:34

I thought that rumour had been going around for years? The time of CS's addiction/HIV/sacking from 2 and a half men. It's disgusting but I'm not sure what is to achieved by posting about it on MN and using the Fail link.

CryingShame · 09/11/2017 10:34

I thought that the perpertrator in this case wasn't CS? Someone on set at the time had confirmed it was an older male in his 40s she says cagily

MargaretTwatyer · 09/11/2017 10:35

Crying. I don't think it was limited to one person.

CoughLaughFart · 09/11/2017 10:37

I thought that the perpertrator in this case wasn't CS? Someone on set at the time had confirmed it was an older male in his 40s

This is exactly the problem. It’s all he said, she said - and all third parties. Only two people know what happened and one is dead.

noeffingidea · 09/11/2017 10:38

Corey Haim is dead apparently as a result of much of the mental trauma inflicted upon him
I don't think this part is true. He died of pneumonia and had some sort of genetic defect that affected his heart.
While I believe this allegation is probably true it is not the whole story. There was/is a paedophile ring operating and this information has been released at this specific moment to deflect attention away from it.
Allegedly, of course.

ptumbi · 09/11/2017 10:40

I think the Rape refers solely to women being penetrated.

A man being penetrated is sodomy.

In law. Not saying it's right. Rape is rape.

smashyourglasses · 09/11/2017 10:41

I believe it. CS is fucked up but there's worse men hiding behind the scenes in Hollywood. There's more to this.

BertrandRussell · 09/11/2017 10:44

Rape is unwanted penetration by a penis. Of a man or a woman. The key point is the use of a penis.

NameChanger22 · 09/11/2017 10:45

One victim is dead, but when things are out in the open hopefully other victims will feel able to come forward and speak up.

Is Charlie Sheen one of the 6 names CF has named to the police? I'm expecting the name of SS to come out by the end of the year.