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The zephyrs of change. Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 08/11/2017 18:17

Republicans starting to feel the breeze as diverse Dems have a good election day.

Six lessons learned from US Democrat wins
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41920434

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annandale · 15/11/2017 05:33

Oh gosh, the California shooter had a history of domestic violence and a restraining order out against him. How unprecedented.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/11/2017 05:53

It is just so unheard of anna. But don’t worry, they’re going to be inundated with thoughts and prayers so everything is fine. And most people will be able to direct those thoughts and prayers to the right people, so it doesn’t matter if a few get waylaid

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
May God be with the people of Sutherland Springs, Texas. The FBI and Law Enforcement has arrived

Sarah Kendzior
Sarah Kendzior
@sarahkendzior
He's mixed up mass shootings, confusing the one last week in Texas with the one in California today. This is so disrespectful to the victims.

  1. We have too many mass shootings. ONE is too many.
  2. That's no excuse for a POTUS confusing them. Carelessness is callousness.
  3. Trump's done nothing to address root causes. His presence exacerbates the crisis.
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/11/2017 06:03

Shock About that letter from over 50 pastors proclaiming their support for Moore

Jules
@jules_su
Roy Moore & his wife literally took an old letter of support by 53 pastors, and forged it to make it seem like he was still supported AFTER the allegations of sexual assault on minors came out.

So far, multiple people named in the letter have demanded they be removed from it.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a09fb51e4b0bc648a0d1e0c/amp

Jules
@jules_su
Also here is the link to the edited letter posted by Moore’s wife, implying those 53 pastors still support him.

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1917464514936191&id=100000179835928

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/11/2017 06:11

Matthew Isbell
Matthew Isbell
@mcimaps
Democrats won the Senate District 37 special in Oklahoma. A district Trump won with 67% of the vote!

Amanda Litman
Amanda Litman
@amandalitman
A 26 year old lesbian flipped an OK state senate seat today by only 34 votes.

Rule #1 of 2017 politics: We know nothing.

www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/democrat-pulls-off-special-election-victory-for-senate-seat-in/article_7aed6549-3589-54ea-b3be-9a5f8c87c420.html

The zephyrs of change. Trump continued
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/11/2017 06:16

Steve Bannon And Allies Have Second Thoughts About Roy Moore, Sources Say

amp.thedailybeast.com/steve-bannon-and-allies-have-second-thoughts-about-roy-moore-sources-say

[...]But over the past few days, Bannon has begun privately taking the temperature of those in his inner circle to see what they think of the Moore allegations and to get their sense of how to proceed, according to four knowledgeable sources. Late last week, the Breitbart chairman said, “I will put him in a grave myself,” if he determines that Moore was lying to him about the numerous accusations, a source close to Bannon relayed.

Bannon emphasized, to both friends and colleagues, that he’s uncomfortable with the charges of sexual harassment and child molestation that have been levelled at Moore. But he wasn’t convinced that the initial flood of on-record testimony, starting with the first Washington Post story last week, was anything more than a hit job. And he believes it may have been planted by #NeverTrump operatives to put the screws to Moore’s campaign.

Several of Bannon’s most trusted allies have already told him that it would be “insane,” as one put it, to believe at this point that the Moore accusations are baseless. They have also warned that the time is rapidly approaching when he would have to disavow Moore before it appeared as though he was simply caving to political pressure. (Critics of Bannon, of course, argue he should never have backed Moore in the first place.)

It is unclear if those points have completely resonated. Bannon is currently in Japan, where he went to deliver a speech. He is scheduled to fly back at the end of the week.

For Bannon, the stakes are far higher than one Senate seat. He and his allies saw Moore’s candidacy as a referendum on the Republican establishment, which went all-in for Moore’s primary opponent, Sen. Luther Strange (R-AL), and is now threatening to remove Moore if he prevails. In particular, Bannon believes that a Moore win would be a stinging defeat for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) who he and others at Breitbart fault for stalling Trump’s legislative agenda and for the longer-term corrosion of ideological purity in the Republican Party. As the website’s editor in chief Alex Marlow told Politico on Tuesday, the Alabama senate contest “represents so much beyond one race.”

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/11/2017 06:20

Brian Stelter
Brian Stelter
@brianstelter
Sean Hannity breaking with Roy Moore: "For me, the judge has 24 hours. You must immediately and fully come up with a satisfactory explanation for your inconsistencies... You must remove any doubt. If you can't do this, then Judge Moore needs to get out of this race

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/11/2017 06:26

'Nothing about it felt right': More than 50 people describe sexual harassment on Capitol Hill

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/11/14/politics/sexual-harassment-congress/index.html

Also

Ayman Mohyeldin
Ayman Mohyeldin
@AymanM
WOW==> US congresswoman @JackieSpeier (D-CA) tells Chuck Todd: “there is about 15 million dollars that has been paid out by the House on behalf of harassers in the last 10-15 years” to settle sexual harassment claims... by the way that is US taxpayer money that was used!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/11/2017 06:32

The New York Times has an article about the contract given to ex-kgb linked security company to guard the us ambassy in Moscow but the telegraph had a piece on it 4 days ago (and it was posted on this thread 5 days ago). Why would a British newspaper publish that but it take so long to be picked up on in America? (It may have been by other American publications but it seems to be reported and commented on as new news on twitter today)

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/11/2017 06:36

Ooh just seen that Maddow has a 24 minute piece about the embassy so maybe that will shed some light!

annandale · 15/11/2017 06:44

Is that true, that 45 mixed up two shooting incidents?

badbadhusky · 15/11/2017 07:09

Anna - it would not be surprising, as he seems to have a limited grasp on detail and no interest in doing his job properly. Or perhaps he’s finally got off his arse to issue a statement about last week’s shooting in Texas (on Twitter! Hmm) and the overlap with yet another mass shooting is coincidental...

TheNorthWestPawsage · 15/11/2017 07:20

Catching up this morning after a couple of busy days. Sadly missed the Dis honourable Gnome's testimony but the links you all provided were enough!
It's such a rollercoaster of emotions at the moment - one minute euphoria at Dems wins and the uncovering of more damning evidence against the Trump camp etc and then despair when people (Trump and GOP) behave appallingly, constantly lying through their rotten teeth and getting away with it! (and don't get me started on Bannon and his flying monkeys...!)

Roussette · 15/11/2017 08:11

He's tweeted before about Sutherland Springs exactly the same 9 days ago. So he obviously copy and pasted that tweet and forgot to change it to California. I can't begin to imagine how that makes the victims families in Calif feel.

lionheart · 15/11/2017 11:25

Poor chap.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump

While in the Philippines I was forced to watch @CNN, which I have not done in months, and again realized how bad, and FAKE, it is. Loser!

lionheart · 15/11/2017 11:30

Can't wait.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump

I will be making a major statement from the @WhiteHouse upon my return to D.C. Time and date to be set.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/11/2017 11:30

Is that the press you're criticising, rather than the human right's abuser who just hosted you (and incidentally also criticised the press in your presence)?

badbadhusky · 15/11/2017 12:32

I will be making a major statement from the @WhiteHouse upon my return to D.C. Time and date to be set.

Please let it be his resignation speech. 🙏

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/11/2017 12:55

I’m going to go with announcing a Clinton investigation but even he might not be stupid enough to do that given sessions said yesterday it didn’t seem like it would be a good idea

ElenaGreco123 · 15/11/2017 13:21

Roy Moore should explain himself within 24 hours or else, says Hannity.
insider.foxnews.com/2017/11/14/hannity-gives-roy-moore-24-hours-explain-inconsistencies-sexual-misconduct-allegations
I did not know Hannity decides who runs for Senate, but hey.

BiglyBadgers · 15/11/2017 13:28

I will be making a major statement from the @WhiteHouse upon my return to D.C. Time and date to be set

My money is on lots of build up and general game show sparkly excitements and then nothing of any actual consequence being said at all. This is his standard squirrel tactic.

Either that or it's nuclear war.

cozietoesie · 15/11/2017 13:39

There’s cheerful, Bigly. Grin

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/11/2017 13:44

Donald J. Trump*@realDonaldTrump*
.@foxandfriends will be showing much of our successful trip to Asia, and the friendships & benefits that will endure for years to come!

Stephanie Ruhle‏*@SRuhle*
Quick question @realDonaldTrump - how did you know what would be on the NEWS over at @foxandfriends before it even aired?

ElenaGreco123 · 15/11/2017 13:57

Let's hope John Oliver's Cowboy Who Caths will be able to get some points across to Trump in the ad breaks of Fox & Friends.
thehill.com/homenews/media/360076-john-oliver-to-sneak-info-to-trump-through-fox-friends-ads

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