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To ask WWYD re inheritance

279 replies

littleteethies · 06/11/2017 16:52

I'll try to keep this as brief as poss, more of a WWYD I think
DM and DF bought a house 20 years ago (v nice location, meant for their retirement) months before DM passed away (v sudden and unexpected). DF met someone else (let's call her W from witch) v soon after (months) and again v soon after that he retired, sold his business interests and moved in with W into said house.
I did find it all rushed at the time but I was 20 hrs old, devastated after losing DM and just wanted DF to be happy. There was never any conflict between me and W, quite the opposite, although as the years went by I came to realise she was very selfish towards DF and just not a nice person.
About 5 years ago, DF's health deteriorated and I believe he and W have arranged wills. In a casual convo they told me that the agreement is that the surviving partner gets to remain in the house until their death, at which point it will be sold and split equally between me and W's son.
I had no objection whatsoever, my main concern was DF getting better and I even refused to talk about wills and inheritance and things like that. The justification was that W has sold her property whilst living with DF and given DF half the value of the house - I find this vv hard to believe as DF also sold another 2 properties whilst with her (again bought together with DM), had a pension and still worked; there's no way he could have spent all that money. But as it was now her home as well I felt that was the right thing to do.
My DF passed away too a couple of years ago, it completely floored me and the last thing on my mind was this house. Before the funeral she told me it would cost £8k to "read the will" and as we already know what their agreement was, there is no point to waste so much money.
I kept in v close contact with W, mainly because I felt she was a kind of link I had with DF's memory but as months went by this link started to fade and she became somewhat disinterested. However every time I went to see her, take her out for lunch etc she made a point of telling me how her son has given her money for various home improvements and generally pointing out many negatives about the house - they all seemed if not made up, then greatly exaggerated.
This made me somehow suspicious so one day over lunch I've casually asked to see DF's will. All hell broke loose, she started screaming at me, calling me names and stormed off. Just like that.
She has not spoken to me since, although bar a birthday card and a card for an anniversary, I've made no attempt either. I have though searched online and there is no will logged with DF's name; I've also looked up land registry records and the house has been in her name since 2003 (I presume DF's name was also on it and taken off).
I guess my question would be If there's anywhere to go from here? If the house is now solely in her name and I don't have a copy of DF's will, does that mean I have no claim whatsoever? Is there any point paying a solicitor?
It's hell of a lot of money to say goodbye to, but what kills me is it's the house DM bought and envisaged retiring in and this nasty woman got everything DM didn't have a chance to. And why didn't I say anything to DF at the time, but that's another thread.

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GlitteryFluff · 14/11/2017 09:46

Hope you manage to get to the bottom of this op.

another20 · 14/11/2017 09:52

This is so difficult for you OP.
Not just the issue with manipulating your DFs money/property after his death but the emotional turmoil you must have privately endured over the past decades watching this woman live your own mothers dream life in the dream home she had found for herself, after her untimely death. I am sure you have kept that buried for many years for respect for your father's apparent happiness - and that was the right thing to do - but it must still have been deeply painful......I hope that you can keep a clear head, pace yourself and deal with this by stealth to overturn this injustice.

I do hope that she has destroyed the will and you get the lot - if thats possible. Make sure you invest in a shit hot lawyer.

littleteethies · 14/11/2017 18:13

Hi everyone, just to let you know I'm still here and as a PP has said currently trying to get all my ducks in a row!
So far I have letter from bank confirming she told them there was no nok and no estate so they waived off DF's Credit card bill - v low debt and bank won't be interested in pursuing but just proves W is a lying witch; still waiting for bank statements.
Spoke to land registry who confirmed they were tenants in common, waiting for a copy of doc she lodged in order to remove restriction, hopefully same sort of fraudulent declaration she made to the bank! Worst case scenario is that this doc is a copy of DF's unexecuted will showing all going to her but on the phone they said unlikely they would have accepted that without probate; plus I think if she had that sort of of will she'd have executed it.
Think I may have found solicitors holding the will (by ringing around, hooray to perseverance) but they were extremely unhelpful (either friends with W, as I said v small community or genuinely apprehensive due to having no idea DF passed away in which case I presume they will try to contact him and find her, so she'll know I'm on her trail); so I won't prod them further until I got everything else.
Contacted DVLA about DF's car, not much hope there unfortunately as can't remember reg plate.
Will update when I know more, but thank you all again for your help and kind words.

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CoraPirbright · 14/11/2017 18:28

Ooh that all sounds excellent - well done on your perseverance. Cant believe she just flat-out lied to the bank like that!

ohfourfoxache · 14/11/2017 18:42

You’re doing so well, keep going!

I know that this can’t be easy; wishing you strength Thanks

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/11/2017 19:10

That sounds like great progress in the time, OP - brilliantly well done!!

It's a shame the solicitors may contact W, but you couldn't not have asked them about a will so I really hope they'll act appropriately ...

another20 · 14/11/2017 19:21

Wow that is great progress. I would get some advice from the Law Society if you feel that the local solicitor is being obstructive or negligent. Although in fairness if it is such a small community surely they would have known he had died. I doubt that they would protect her at the risk of their business? But it just takes a casual word to blow your cover. I would pursue with the DVLA. They must have another identification tier - or could you go to local garages where it was bought or repaired/MOT'd as they would have records. I also imagine that there might be pensions and other investments if your DF had business and multiple properties. I do hope that this works out for you. If it is found to be fraudulent - are you required to press charges or will this be triggered by LR or bank - or do you just agree for her to hand over what is rightfully yours and that is the end of it?

GabriellaMontez · 14/11/2017 19:23

Just wondering if you have a photo anywhere that has his car reg on it.

Eg on facebook or phone?

timeisnotaline · 14/11/2017 19:26

I don't (usually) like to be vindictive, but it sounds like it would be very satisfying if the house has to be sold to pay you your rightful inheritance.

NameWithChange · 14/11/2017 19:30

Great progress.

I know it happens all the time where money is concerned but it never ceases to amaze me how any integrity flies straight out of the window. What a nasty, nasty bitch.

mussinboots · 14/11/2017 19:33

Take the witch to court- if not for your rightful inheritance than as a matter of principle.

mummyrabbitpeppapig · 14/11/2017 19:43

Good progress made so far. If she WAS lying will you press charges?

MissConductUS · 14/11/2017 19:46

Thank you for the update. Do try to locate a solicitor to review all of this with before you go too much further. Well done with the research!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/11/2017 19:52

I would get some advice from the Law Society if you feel that the local solicitor is being obstructive or negligent

Good luck with that - I believe the chance of one body of solicitors acting effectively against another is remote in the extreme Hmm

IhaveChillyToes · 14/11/2017 20:15

Just posting to say hope you get everything that your DF would have wanted you to have

WW is showing herself to be an evil lying money grabber AngryAngryAngry

Good luck @littleteethies SmileSmileSmile

ElizabethSwann17 · 14/11/2017 20:21

Good luck with that - I believe the chance of one body of solicitors acting effectively against another is remote in the extreme

Not the Law Society, but the SRA are the correct people to complain to and they can and will take enforcement action against negligent solicitors.

Jux · 14/11/2017 20:27

Um, we gotvery helpful and useful advice from the Law Society whenw were stitched up by a local sol.

LoveProsecco · 14/11/2017 20:41

OP you’re doing great Star

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 14/11/2017 20:52

Well done OP
She is definitely hiding something given her angry and defensive reactions

Fight toooth and nail for this and yes it's work and admin but it's a battle worth fighting

StillSmallVoice · 14/11/2017 20:55

Good luck. I hope you get there.

Primaryteach87 · 14/11/2017 21:00

Well OP, I really hope you get to the bottom of this. It’s awful when you hear these stories and I hope this one has a happy(ish, obviously you’d rather have your lovely DM & DF) ending.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 14/11/2017 21:00

I am updating my will after reading this !

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/11/2017 21:25

Genuinely glad to hear it, Jux ... all I got was closed ranks, so if it comes to it I very much hope OP has a better experience

44PumpLane · 14/11/2017 21:25

Goodness me OP- it sounds like you are at least making some progress.

Good luck!

sayhellotothelittlefella · 14/11/2017 21:36

Hi OP. Glad to hear you are pursuing this. As W is carrying on as if there is no will and no NOK. have you tried searching the Bono Vacantia list.
www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/unclaimed-estates-list
This may have your DF's estate listed and you can then make a claim.