Are you an aeroplane seat recliner??

[Sotuko]

If so, do you not feel a bit guilty about the poor sod sat behind you who now has even less space than they had before??

I don't understand why airlines still allow this, there isn't the room for it!

During a long flight last night/this morning/I don't know I've lost all track of time, I wasn't able to use my telly as the woman in front made sure it was RIGHT in my face and don't even get me started on meal time.

So are you a seat recliner and if so, do you think about the impact on the person behind you?

I recline. Because I've paid for my seat and will do as I like. That being said I would sit up for food and drinks so the person behind me has more room- even if the person in front of me didn't offer the same courtesy. Because they might not want to and you know- they have paid.

Flights suck. I'm not going to be more uncomfortable. Everyone needs to get on the best they can.

I also find offering a bag of sweets about to people around you means people help each other out more, more than once in my pre children days I've held a little one for someone so they could eat their dinner first.

Long haul flight, people want to sleep and might do it better slightly reclined. If it’s there to be reclined, it’s ok to do it.

I would certainly ask the cabin crew to sort out the twat kicking my seat when all I have done is to use the available recline option. Hint - their opinion is that reclines are right, seat kickers are not, and disobeying crew can result in police waiting for you.

Surely no one disagrees with reclining on long haul?

'Naw, I’ll just take my Valium and amitriptilene and I’ll be dead to the world. In my reclined seat.'

Yep.

seasidecrocodile

FWIW it was the air steward who ended the argument saying the guy who had his knees in my back would be met by the police if he didn’t remove his knees and it was grounds for being charged with assault as he threw me forward.

Yay to the air stewardess!

I really don't get why you wouldn't recline. If you both recline you've got exactly the same amount of room as if you both didn't recline, and you dont all have to be sat bolt upright.

This thread shows why people do it. They do not think or care about others. I have been in a long haul flight with my little one on my lap and the fucker in front tried to recline. This would have meant a very very miserable flight for us both and others really. I am however relatively tall and i tend to like to put my knees comfortably up against the seat in front (not pressing mind) so that normally prevent any significant reclining (ie if someone reclines a bit the seat will come in contact with my knees which is fine for everyone but if they try to recline further the movement will be stopped by the fact that my knees are in the way - simples). For someone to recline slightly is absolutely fine and I can do the same but those seats recline a fair deal despite the lack of space really.
Those saying that it is as simple as the others reclining too are frankly stupid. If someone has a little one on their lap for instance it is far from being that easy. Also not everyone want to recline, depending on what they are doing. And finally the reclining motion takes some of the leg space which cannot be recovered by reclining again...

You can ask me politely to put my seat up and I would politely say that I was reclining for comfort as the seat was designed to do. If you then indulged in deliberately anti social behavior I would politely request the cabin staff dealt with your behavior. Asking for unreasonable things politely doesn't mean you should be given them, just refused with the same courtesy.

Equally, the non-recliners do not have the right to insist that the person in front is made extremely uncomfortable
Exactly!

This thread shows why people do it. They do not think or care about others.

Sorry, oblada - that's just not accurate.

What do you say to people flying (ultra) long haul at night time?

Of course someone reclining when the person behind them has a child on their lap is rude.

Equally the militant non-recliners are being rude and entitled by expecting the person in front of them to put a stranger's comfort ahead of their own.

People just need to be considerate and aware of others, and try not to be twats. It's a confined space - let's all just try to get along.

Doesn't really seem fair to expect someone not to recline because someone else has chosen to travel with a small child on their lap. You can buy a seat for toddlers or book a sky cot for babies. The only time they need to be on your lap when the seat belt signs are on would be when seats have to be put upright anyway.

I have to add, IME people do just get along on all flights I've ever been on.

I've only ever heard of this absurd back-of-seat knee-shoving, toddler-like behaviour on MN, where quite frankly, I'd expect better of grown women...

' They do not think or care about others. '

I paid for the seat and take advantage of its facilities, if you're tall and too cheap to buy a seat for your child, I'm not going to sit bolt upright on a 10 hour flight with a 5 hour stopover after that plus another 2 hour flight then a 2 hour drive home. If you call that not caring about others, fair play. I don't. I care about getting some sleep so I can semi function during the 5 hours as I'm on my own with my own 2 kids, 1 of whom has autism, and need to keep my eyes on them. You say it's not caring about others, well, equally, you care more about yourself and your purse than you do about other people's needs, too.

@osolea

Exactly. If you don’t to be behind a reclined seat with a child on your lap then put the child in their own seat.

Even with the longest legs going if you stretch them out in front of the seat ahead of you presto they fit! It’s only if you insist on being flat footed that it becomes a problem.

Recliners don’t bother me it’s those who use my seat to lever themselves up catapulting me out of my seat that get on my tits.

Fright of your life when you're snoozing, or caught up in a movie.

I did on my last flight. It was an 11 hour long haul flight. They turned the lights down and everyone was reclined.
Upright for eating though.

My main issue on the that flight was the woman behind using my arm rest as a foot rest. She stuck her naked foot down the side of my window seat, I was not best pleased with that. She tried to do it on the way home too (the flying gods were not on my side with those flights and she was directly behind us again)

'She stuck her naked foot down the side of my window seat, I was not best pleased with that. '

Eeew! Now that I'd call the air steward for after, 'Excuse me, but my arm rest is not a foot rest. Please get your foot off my seat.'

You chose to travel with your child on your knee, rather than in a skycot or it’s own seat. Trying to prevent other passengers from reclining because of your travel choices is highly unreasonable and incredibly self centred.

It's the sheer uppity, self righteous ENTITLEMENT of it that staggers me.

Can't be arsed to book a seat with extra leg room or a seat for their own child.

But expects other passengers not to use their seats in the manner intended.

And then get snippy and plot revenge when passenger refuses to roll over and spend an entire journey with their seat in the torture position.