Are you an aeroplane seat recliner??

[Sotuko]

If so, do you not feel a bit guilty about the poor sod sat behind you who now has even less space than they had before??

I don't understand why airlines still allow this, there isn't the room for it!

During a long flight last night/this morning/I don't know I've lost all track of time, I wasn't able to use my telly as the woman in front made sure it was RIGHT in my face and don't even get me started on meal time.

So are you a seat recliner and if so, do you think about the impact on the person behind you?

[strugglingtodomybest]

Thanks again beingmetea and also ummKultum.

I'm not really bothered if easyjet, Ryanair and Jet2 (never heard of them!) get rid of reclining seats. They're only short haul and I'm not likely to be on one of them as part of a longer overall trip.

Anyway, as promised (not that anyone cares I expect ) here I am reporting on last night's long haul flight.

As expected, everyone reclined. I was surprised to see that no-one (that I could see) put their seats back up for breakfast though.

[whatabreakthrough]

Would you like a recline barbeara?

[PoorYorick]

but the man in front of my son jumped up and down so much his chair was shaking the whole flight.

So now not only can we not lean back a bit, we can't get up either?

(Though I grant that is a genuine pain for people in the middle and aisle seats and it's why I always opt for the window if I can. I've got a bladder the size of a space hopper.)

[Ilovechocolatetoomuch]

I'm with the non recliners for the reason I hate having the person in front of me recline.
I felt very glad we were in PE on the way back from Orlando when everyone reclined on night flight (as did we), but the man in front of my son jumped up and down so much his chair was shaking the whole flight. If we had been in cattle class that would have been awful, luckily he was far enough away it didn't affect us.

[MaidOfStars]

#TeamYorick
Just for use of 'trebuchet'.

[TheDowagerCuntess]

I'm surprised that anyone would think the removal of reclining seats from mega-budget, short-haul flights means anything. I mean, seriously?

[Voice0fReason]

Reclining won't be removed from any but the cheap short-haul airlines and they don't really matter in the grand scale.

The whole question of only reclining on night flights is a bit of a red herring. The fact that the flight is taking place at a particular time of day, doesn't mean that everyone's body clock will be on the same time. A day time flight could be someone else's night-time. There are times I have taken an early morning flight with a long day ahead of me and wanted to get a bit extra sleep so will recline my seat to do so more comfortably.

[PoorYorick]

Well as long as an airline is marginally ethical and wouldn't switch to giant trebuchets if it were legal, I don't see any evidence that reclining seats will disappear for decent long hauls.

[UmmKultum]

Exactly. Lack of recline is not due to any concern for passenger comfort. Non reclining seats are cheaper and lighter and you can shove them closer together as no need to leave room for any recline.

[Kpo58]

Sleazyjet and Ruinair barely count, they would put you in an enormous catapult if they could

And charge you extra to be caught in a large net at the other end.

[PoorYorick]

Sleazyjet and Ruinair barely count, they would put you in an enormous catapult if they could.

[BringMeTea]

Yes, it was struggling. Jet2 also.

[UmmKultum]

EasyJet and Ryanair off the top of my head.

[strugglingtodomybest]

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[strugglingtodomybest]

Thanks for answering my question about why you think reclining seats are on their way out Bringmetea.

I have assumed that this: I think reclining seats will eventually disappear. It has already started. was in answer to me?

Either way, I would be interested to know which airlines/planes to not use reclining seats, so that I can avoid them.

[dontcallmethatyoucunt]

In defence of the non recliners, if I'm on a day flight, I don't bother. I sit and watch films. I'm talking a long haul: Japan, Cuba, Vancouver etc so slog journeys. Night time I ensure I slam my recline into action, smashing it into the face of the person behind and like literally lie in their lap.... Or as most of the plane view it, gently recline as the lights dim.

If you don't, you're a bit of a cock

[PoorYorick]

Heh. Yes, and you know what's coming.

"Well, not only do I sit ramrod straight for 15 hours when I fly to Australia every month, I hold my arms up over my head for the whole duration too, I just don't feel like a truly kind and considerate human being until my extremities are purple. Sometimes I line my seat with drawing pins too, just for extra credit, or ask the cabin crew to shine a torch in my face every time I'm about to nod off. I would hold my head back until I cricked my neck, but I haven't got room because I don't recline my seat."

[Nakedavenger74]

@PoorYorick spot on! Love the passive aggressive 'I sit bolt upright for my 17 hour flight as I am not inhumane and I couldn't possibly inflict that on my fellow human' 😁

I do that 17 hour AKL -Dubai 8 times a year. After the meal the lights go out and everyone EVERYONE reclines. I am 5'10 with a 6,2 partner. We are perfectly comfortable with the person in front reclined. I even get to cross my legs! Never seen someone not recline so I don't get this angst! No one ever asked my permission to recline and I'd think them nuts if they did.

My main concern is how frequently I can ask aisle seat person to let me out to the lav. I get errrrmmm ..... windy on long flights and it's about every hour it needs a release....

[PoorYorick]

Because you are asking me to imagine something utterly preposterous. And this thread is full of preposterousness. People claiming that they will brace for the entire flight, people claiming that they will prevent the seat in front from reclining with the sheer Herculean power of their biceps, people claiming that tilting your seat back on a flight is an act of inhumanity and sheer unkindness to one's fellow man, people claiming all sorts of bollocks and this idea that you would happily sit for 15 hours without changing position or leaning back to sleep - not once, but on a regular basis for years on end - is beyond asinine.

I have never seen a problem with people reclining on a flight. I have never seen a long haul flight when people didn't recline at least to sleep. I could not give a monkeys if the person in front of me reclines, it won't affect my legroom and I'm not planning on bracing for the duration, so really who gives a shit.

A few uncommonly tall people may have a problem. I think 99% of people, if they find they're in front of Goliath and really can't recline, will try to be nice about it. The vast majority of people have absolutely nothing to worry about. In fact, I would go so far as to tell you fruit loops that you haven't got enough to worry about. Go and set something close to you on fire.

The things that have been claimed and argued on here on the most piddling matter that nobody in real life actually gives a shit about are absurd. They are demented. They are utterly nonsensical. No, I do not believe that you regularly sit upright at 90 degrees on planes for more than half a day, especially if it's a night flight. And if you do, that doesn't make you moral or superior, it just makes you uncomfortable.

Flaming Nora.

[TheDowagerCuntess]

I'm sure you don't recline.

Meanwhile, everyone else does, on long haul, at least.

Reclining seats aren't going anywhere on long haul flights.

[BringMeTea]

Why do you think someone must be lying because you cannot imagine something? I regularly fly long haul and I don’t recline. I think reclining seats will eventually disappear. It has already started. No reason to think it won’t continue.

[TheDowagerCuntess]

Absolutely.

In the real world, everyone happily reclines, while the few militant anti-recliners sit there, seething with passive aggressive resentment, bursting a few blood vessels, while all the recliners snooze away, completely oblivious.

[PoorYorick]

I absolutely do not believe that anyone sits ramrod straight for 15 hours on long haul flights on a regular basis, unless they have an injury or something that prevents reclining. It's just silly anti recliners making up anything as they lose both the point and general grip.

[Trafalgarxxx]

Kindness works both ways.
Yu can’t ask someone to be kind by not reclining (because it leaves you with less/not enough space);and then in the same breath have a go at them because they expect you to be kind by tolerating them reclining their seat (because they need some sleep, have some backache, the person front has declined etc...).

Actually the level of intolerance in this thread from the non recliners is quite astonishing. And more so because they come from the angle that THEY are the nice people who are caring for those behind them —whereas recliners are just twats who are totally inconsiderate—
The issue of course is that you can’t have it both ways....