Are you an aeroplane seat recliner??

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If so, do you not feel a bit guilty about the poor sod sat behind you who now has even less space than they had before??

I don't understand why airlines still allow this, there isn't the room for it!

During a long flight last night/this morning/I don't know I've lost all track of time, I wasn't able to use my telly as the woman in front made sure it was RIGHT in my face and don't even get me started on meal time.

So are you a seat recliner and if so, do you think about the impact on the person behind you?

Have you read the thread? Some posters have clearly said a seat in upright position causes them pain and discomfort.

Have you? Others have clearly said being behind a reclined seat causes them pain and discomfort and they've been told to get over it or pay to sit elsewhere. I'm just suggesting the same.

For some people a reclining seat is essential if they have physical issues or wish to sleep.

Ditto not being sat behind a reclining seat and my point above.

Ok. I’ve paid extra to travel in a particular airplane that is comfortable to travel on for 4 hours without reclining. I PAID EXTRA.

Turns out the planes were swapped and I didn’t travel in the plane I wanted, which I knew would be more comfortable. Nothing I can do about that. So having paid extra to travel on a plane which was advertised, that I knew would not involve me having to recline my seat, should have had to suck it up for the people behind me, even though I’m in pain? Never reclined without due consideration but I’m buggered if I’m going to martyr myself.

Ditto not being sat behind a reclining seat and my point above.

If certain people - and I've never encountered any - are unable/unwilling to accept that airplane seats are built to recline, and that passengers have every right to use this facility

AND

said people are unwilling to avail of the other options available to them

THEN

perhaps flying is not the appropriate mode of transport for them.

Fortunately, other forms of getting from A to B do exist.

Just back from holiday. A very short flight and the selfish passenger in front of me reclined her seat as soon as we had taken off. Not even a quick check to see if it was ok.

The tray was sloped and when i got my coffee I had to ask cabin crew to ask her to sit up, as it was digging into my stomach and the coffee was in danger of spilling. On a 2 and a half hour flight.

Just back from holiday. A very short flight and the selfish passenger in front of me reclined her seat as soon as we had taken off. Not even a quick check to see if it was ok.

THE FUCKING BITCH!!!! I wonder if she had read this thread?

If no meal about to be served then she can recline her seat. The length of the flight is of no consequence.

It’s all well and good people saying no to short flights and no to longhall day time flights.... but you don’t know where the other person has travelled from.
When I was flying from Australia I was stuck at the airport from 8am-8pm, left at 8pm local time, landed in Dubai, waited a few hours, then flew from Dubai to UK. After all the time change and waiting around, I had no idea what time it was so I ordered me a mini bottle of wine, reclined and tried to just get some sleep. It was actually around 7am local time so I was probably being very unreasonable to some people...
I do recline if I want/need to sleep. If the person in front of my reclines I also recline.

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Have you? Others have clearly said being behind a reclined seat causes them pain and discomfort and they've been told to get over it or pay to sit elsewhere. I'm just suggesting the same.

You clearly said 'a recline is purely a nice-to-have not an issue of pain and discomfort'.

What gives you the right to speak for everyone?

What gives you the right to speak for everyone?

I'm speaking for myself. Unlike posters telling other posters that it's not uncomfortable or painful sitting behind a reclined seat. This is just going in circles. Your right to comfort doesn't trump mine but unfortunately planes charge me extra for my comfort but don't charge you extra for yours. Yes, this pisses me off. No, it's not your fault. But I hope it changes in the future.

Yeah well fucking bitch was about right.

These threads are so bzarre.

I fly a lot - both for work and personally as mine and dh’s families are all in different counties - and have often flown with a lap infant too.

Yes, with baby on lap I have inwardly groaned when someone has reclined but I wouldn’t expect them, who paid for their ticket and are fully entitled to recline, to be discomforted because I chose not to pay for a seat for my child.

If I want to sleep on a flight, short haul or long haul, I’ll recline, otherwise I don’t but it is my right. Thankfully, I’ve also never come across someone who has complained or kneed me in the back. Shocking behavior.

I once had an enormous man sit in front of me, which made the chair recline quite a bit of its own accord. Then he reclined it so that he was practically lying in my lap When he got up, he dropped his Vodka bottle from the overhead locker on me. It was a sad day.

Being kneed in the back is a natural consequence of 0 legroom - space taken from reclining. Due to the lack of on board amputation the knees have to go somewhere and that somewhere is into the chair in front.

You could imagine the lawsuits if airplane companies started charging all those who are 5'10" and over extra so they could sit down normally like short people, yet that is effectively what they are trying to do now.

I've always found the angst about this rather bizarre!
I recline my seat when I want to rest.
I'm very tall and have no issue at all if the person in front of me chooses to recline.
I don't ask permission from the person behind me - it would be pointless as I am going to do it anyway.
If someone wants to attempt to knee the back of my seat, I doubt I would even feel it, the seats are quite robust, and even if I did, it would cause the person doing it considerably more discomfort than it would me

Then he reclined it so that he was practically lying in my lap

Those who are saying they couldn't possibly avoid kneeing the person in front if the seat is reclined are lying/mistaken, you just have to move your feet forward and your knees will magically not knee the person in front!

This is weird. I fly to and from NZ 4 times a year. One leg is 17 hours. Too bloody right I'm reclining and so is everyone else!

In well over 400 flights I have never been asked by the person in front if they can recline and I'd think them bonkers if they did! It's part of the seats functionality! I might have a cursory glance behind to check the person behind isn't bending over but other than that I recline fully and slowly. If the person in front reclines and you do too you still have the same space! As someone up thread also says leg room is not impacted by a reclined seat!

I do expect reclined seats to be raised for mealtimes though. Emirates are normally very good for getting people to do that.

Weird this thread

I think these threads are bizarre too. I'm 45, fly multiple times a year for work with my 6'2" business partner. I've never ever ever been on a flight where someone has 1) asked if they can recline, 2) complain if I recline or 3) my business partner has complained about someone reclining. He just books an aisle seat and moves his legs out to the side, or like a pp said, straightens them out so they slip under the seat in front while he's reclined.

My conclusion is that posters are talking about very different flights, the difference between flying say, BA to Australia compared to Ryanair to Malaga.

Due to the lack of on board amputation the knees have to go somewhere and that somewhere is into the chair in front. [my italics]

“On board amputation.”

Now that would really be something...

Those who are saying they couldn't possibly avoid kneeing the person in front if the seat is reclined are lying/mistaken, you just have to move your feet forward and your knees will magically not knee the person in front!

I fly multiple times a year and I can assure you I am neither lying nor mistaken in the fact that the tiny pitch of the seat on short haul european flights mean that my knees are in the back of the seat in front. I have even come off some flights with the imprint of the net/material pocket on the back of the seat in front imprinted into my knees for an hour or two afterwards because it has been such a tight squeeze!

I can sit like that (legs straight under the seat in front) for a while, but not for a whole flight as I start to get cramp in my legs and my ankle aches from being in that position (I fractured my ankle at the start of the year and I still struggle with the flexibility and stability of it)

Also, I often fly with a small tote bag as my hand luggage which has to go under the seat in front because the overhead bins are filled with wheeled suitcases, which then reduces the amount of room I have to stretch my legs before they get caught in my bag & the frame under the seat in front.

I'll just leave this here..

Also, I often fly with a small tote bag as my hand luggage which has to go under the seat in front because the overhead bins are filled with wheeled suitcases, which then reduces the amount of room I have to stretch my legs before they get caught in my bag & the frame under the seat in front.

If you want to put your bag under the seat in front of you, that's fine, though of course it will limit the amount of leg room, depending on its size.

Seems odd that you always miss out on fitting it in the overhead compartments, though? Every single time you board, there's never any room above for your bag?

I don't think that's ever happened to me. The overhead bins are for all carry-on, not just wheeled suitcase.

I keep my hand bag under the seat in front, but that doesn't restrict my leg room.