To think the Brexit referendum result should be set aside if allegations of corruption are proved?

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Vanity Fair article about this

Just like the US election last year, there is more and more evidence emerging now that some parts of the Leave campaign were fundedy in very shady ways. Also, social media was manipulated to feed personalised fake news to voters before the referendum. Even the ludicrous #usepens seems to have been pushed by Russian bots as a way of undermining confidence in the electoral process.

We are teetering on the brink of making the biggest political mistake of my lifetime (and I'm in my 50s and remember a good many other bad times). That's bad and bad enough, but if it wasn't even a legitimate vote surely it should just be set aside?

I have mentioned before how 4 brexiteers I know personally have died.

All of them were over 70, none of them could say how the eu controlled us or which laws they most objected to and 2 of them seemed under the impression that the vote was about Muslims (they were against). They all would have been quite well-insulated against recession.

Much like the brexiteers on mn.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/education-41837205/brexit-supporting-students-getting-abuse-on-campus

This year alone, there has been 2-3m registered new voters in the 18-25 age group prior to the election. That demographic is something like 85% remain, so that would probably be enough to swing a second referendum

Only if they bothered voting ... which in view of their appalling turnout at the general election (despite all the noise and fury) is by no means a given

Those students will have the last laugh though. When brexit is a wonderful success, and we have control back, people will be thanking them.

Respectfully stop going on about bloody Brexit. We live in a democracy not a dictatorship. The majority voted to leave.

Respectfully, Stop going on about it?

Respectfully leave Teresa and her idiotic govt to get on with it?

you're not interested in politics- cool - but what on earth makes you think others should stop talking about politics?

Weird.

There is nothing unconstitutional in holding another vote. Or in simply nullifying this one.

unicorn

The minority can complain and debate whatever they please

There was not a box which said 'vote...and forever hold your peace'

Respectfully stop going on about bloody Brexit. We live in a democracy not a dictatorship. The majority voted to leave.

Oh now you've done it.
I agree BTW.

I'm 56 and I can't imagine that I will change my mind on this issue. My parents are in their 80s and were Remain voters.

I'm glad everybody was so amused by my reference to the Leave voters dying. The Financial Times did an analysis which is behind a paywall so I can't see it, but it's referenced in this article. which says:

Age was the biggest divide in how the nation voted in the referendum and, according to a Financial Times model, 2021 is the first year that the result would be reversed if it was re-taken, simply based on population projections and the age demographic of the Brexit vote. By 2021, in other words, enough Leave voters will have passed away and enough Remain voters will be of age to swing the result for Remain.

I can't find the report I saw a couple of months ago that suggested we'd already reached that point, so maybe I misread it/misremembered it/it was wrong, but it looks like I wasn't that far off.

Anyway, I started this thread because the evidence that there was massive interference in the referendum campaign seems to be mounting up, just as it is in Washington in reference to their election last year. If there is fraud in a UK election, it's re-run in that constituency/ward. As it becomes clearer and clearer that Putin has been playing the West off for his own dubious ends, why are we all just standing back and saying 'Oh well' while there is still time to pull back from the brink?

Every other thread on here it’s someone crying about brexit it’s bloody boring.

I can understand people not being interested in politics.

I can't understand people being annoyed that other people are.

The words 'thick as shit' come to mind.

unicorn

I dont disagree with that

Just dont open them

Every other thread on here it’s someone crying about brexit it’s bloody boring.

(a) Ludicrous exaggeration.
(b) Just scroll past if it's of no interest.

give it a bloody rest, we voted , it was a close decision and now article 50 has been triggered
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do you want to keep voting till we get the result you want

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Oh right, simon says end of, so we had all better stop discussing it.

Unbelievable.

There is nothing unconstitutional in holding another vote. Or in simply nullifying this one.

Let's just not bother voting any more then

Not constitutionally binding.

Tell that to David Cameron

I think he already knows

No, I don't want to keep voting till we get the result I want.

If the majority had been very clear (e.g. 60% Leave on a 75% turnout), and won without any illegal/immoral tactics being used, I'd have had to suck it up. But it was a tiny majority, the turnout was only 2/3 of those entitled to vote and it's increasingly looking as if Leave did not abide by electoral rules.

I'm not talking about the misleading claims on the bus. I'm saying that it looks as if Russia had a dry run for the US elections and pushed fake news hard through Facebook, Twitter and so on in ways that are completely unregulated and unaccounted for, unlike the mainstream methods we're used to and which the electoral rules can control and review.

The last GE there was only one party running on another referendum policy, they didn't do very well.

People can discuss it, call it non binding blame a bogey man, it doesn't really matter now, we are regrettably leaving the EU

The last GE there was only one party running on another referendum policy, they didn't do very well

The ones who started this crap didn't do too well either. Hurray DUP!