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AIBU?

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Is it real or..?

116 replies

Lucyyati · 27/10/2017 07:12

I met this guy just over 7 months ago. We are in two different continents.
I'm 25 and he is 37.
We talk all the time, video chat a lot, we text all day. We just love updating each other and making fun of each other. We laugh together and cry and we talk about all sorts of stuff. We both don't care about the age gap, and even though we haven't physically met, I have never been so sexually attracted to anyone.
So in a different scenario this would be an ideal relationship. He has been begging to come see me but I'm so scared that all this perfection shatters and it's not as great as I hoped.
The other thing is I find it strange that he hasn't had a relationship longer than two years, and only in about 3 relationships in his lifetime. All of which he had his heart broken. AIBU? Or is it normal? He is Christian and he is a very respectful gentleman so I don't know.
And he has had quite a few jobs in his life and now he is starting his own business.

I'm worried that he is afraid of commitment with his job changes and his relationship history. Although nothing else he does makes me think this way. He says he has never met someone who he can see a future with before, and the things I shared with him would send anyone running, but he stayed and said he will be supportive no matter what.

I'm taking very small tiny steps but not fully investing emotionally. As much as I want to I'm scared. What should I do?

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Lweji · 27/10/2017 10:24

Regardless, you'll have to think about what you get from this relationship.

It's long distance, which means that he'd have to travel back and forth frequently (only really possible if he was a millionaire), or he'd have to move to the US (see where this is going?), or you're just spending a lot of time on a platonic friendship that doesn't leave you available to find someone you can have a real relationship with.

Ellendegeneres · 27/10/2017 10:44

So how is he sending you gifts if he doesn't know your address? He must know some personal stuff to send you things

SparklyMagpie · 27/10/2017 10:51

Ellendegeneres good point!!

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shakingmyhead1 · 27/10/2017 11:13

a lovely young teacher, at the catholic school my daughter attended, met a man through one of her church group outreach type things, came came over from one of the African Countries, fell desperately in love, got married, and one day he lost his job, she worked full time making money he looked for work and attended church with her, one day after about 3 years she came home to find her home empty.... he had moved his Wife and child from his country to ours and taken all the stuff he could from the marital home and taken it with him... the young teacher had quite a fight on her hands to keep her home and what little dignity she had left, he, his wife and child changed churches at least!

thecatsthecats · 27/10/2017 11:17

Be very wary of anyone who makes you believe that only they could love you.

They tend to be abusive arseholes trying to narrow your worldview until it only contains them.

Laiste · 27/10/2017 11:24

Look OP, you know your won mind. If it's going to torture you forever wondering 'what if' then arrange a few meet ups. Neutral familiar (to you) ground, take a mate the first couple of times.

He's the one forking out for the plane tickets.

See what you feel.

It's piss or get off the pot really Flowers

MrsHathaway · 27/10/2017 11:54

There was an online chat app where people talked in big groups. So we had talked for a while in a group, and I was fascinated by him so I was the one who talked to him privately and initiated this.

FWIW that's how I met DH - though as the group chat was related to a real offline hobby we had actual real friends in common so the risk was lower.

Impostress99 · 27/10/2017 12:32

* I met this guy*

No. You have not met this guy. Yet.

Lucyyati · 27/10/2017 13:01

Eeeek!! Okay people Halloween Grin
I will not rest until I meet him in person at least once!
And I will. On my terms.
But yes I will be careful

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Lucyyati · 27/10/2017 13:03

Oh yes. So once he sent me a gift with a friend who was visiting and the other times I have a P.O. Box.
He doesn't pressure me for email addresses. AM I SERIOUSLY that dumb ConfusedConfused

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bogofeternalstench · 27/10/2017 13:17

Blimey, there are some cynics on here!

I met my husband in an online game. He's American, I'm British. We got to know each other online for 14 months before I flew over to the States to visit (stayed in a hotel). He then visited me a couple of times, we got married and now he lives here.

OP, of course be careful and use caution as you already have been doing, but just because someone isn't from your continent doesn't automatically make them a scammer! You're won't know if the attraction is real until you meet in real life so do it!

Ellendegeneres · 27/10/2017 14:19

I didn't call you dumb. Wow. I actually wanted you to be careful and safe, but if that's how you're gonna take it I'm out.

rightknockered · 27/10/2017 14:25

Oh dear
You met on-line, have never met him in person, yet you've never been so sexually attracted to anyone.
I think you need to step away and forget him, see other men.
You're being taken for a mug I'm afraid.
You're not dumb, this happens to highly intelligent women, more often than you think.
He will start asking you for something, something small. He bought you a gift, does it make you feel more tied to him, obligated to keep talking to him?
WALK AWAY

nightgap · 27/10/2017 14:28

this whole thing is bonkers.

BadLad · 27/10/2017 14:45

You sound incredibly naive and gullible. Please be extremely cautious.

Lucyyati · 27/10/2017 15:07

@Ellendegeneres I was replying to everyone.

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Lucyyati · 27/10/2017 15:10

Being careful. Will update you on what happens.

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hiddley · 27/10/2017 15:31

Out of pure nosiness what gifts did he send

sizenines · 27/10/2017 15:31

Could you be letting your yearning for a relationship over ride your common sense here OP?

Lucyyati · 27/10/2017 16:00

I don't think I am yearning for a relationship. I feel like I have war wounds because of you guys lol!
I mean it's not like I have to be with him or die. If it doesn't work out it doesn't work out. He is hot as hell.
And i don't really see why he would lie. Not much I can offer him.
I guess one step at a time xx

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TheRealBiscuitAddict · 27/10/2017 16:54

OP, I have been part of online chat communities for years and years and have seen this kind of thing happen first-hand a lot more than people would probably believe or expect on here. Including couples who claim to be engaged to each other when they've never actually met in person. Shock Confused and in some cases these relationships have worked out, in some a real meeting just didn't turn out to be what they'd both hoped for and the relationship fizzled out for various reasons, and in some cases one or other party had embellished a lot of the information about themselves not to necessarily scam anyone but just to make themselves be less undesirable or more attractive to the person they are talking to.

The thing about internet chat is that it's easy. You can engage with each other, talk when you want to, and then when you don't you switch off the computer and walk away from it until you're ready to go back. And that also means that you generally can choose to only show your sunny side to the person that you're talking to. It also means that you build up a fantasy picture of the person that you're talking to, and before you know it their personality (or the bits of it that you see online) become the person you are attracted to iyswim.

I don't think you're necessarily any more gullible than anyone else, although I do think that you've potentially built up a picture of the relationship that you could be having with this man when the reality is that it's highly unlikely a future would be possible due to the constraints of the distance between you. That's the thing about online, it gives us the opportunity to talk to people in parts of the world where we would otherwise never have met them, and to form bonds with those people.

But the reality is that even on here people engage with others who they initially know only as a username and then trust that they are who they say they are when they give money to their cause, or donate something for their child or give them a phone number to talk about their issues etc. It's no different really apart from the fact that it's not a romantic relationship, but it's still becoming closer to someone online when there are no guarantees as to their authenticity.

What you need to ask yourself is, what is there to be achieved by meeting up? The reality is that he's in SA, you're in the US, an actual relationship where you are able to get together, marry and have children and a future is incredibly unlikely to be achieved in the short/medium term. How will you sustain your relationship once you've met up and established whether the attraction is what you both think it is? Because going back to just online communication then isn't going to be the same as it was now.

I do agree that if a relationship is a future prospect then meeting is something which has to be done. However you say he's never had a long term relationship, doesn't have a job although is building this business from his bedroom, how is he going to afford to fly to the US and stay in a hotel there especially given the exchange rate between the rand and the dollar?

Given what he's told you about himself it does sound as if he's probably been somewhat honest about who he is, however, being attracted to someone who lives in his bedroom and is running an online business when that attraction is limited to the conversations you're having on skype is vastly different to building a relationship and a life with someone who would potentially want to maintain that lifestyle in the family home. Iyswim.

He's attractive to you because he's lovely to talk to, and as a person he probably is. But if you take the online him and convert it in all its entirety into an RL person, can you see that as being the kind of relationship you would want to be in for the foreseeable future?

PS: South Africa is in general a devoutly Christian country, which is probably why he's been quoting from the bible etc, he's likely been brought up on it.

Ceto · 27/10/2017 17:03

OP, if it is a scam, what you can offer him is potential access to rights of residency in the US, and potential contacts in terms of people he can fleece.

Lucyyati · 27/10/2017 17:43

@TheRealBiscuitAddict thank you. Your words really resonate.

@Ceto yeah it's a bit scary.

Thanks everyone

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theoldtrout01876 · 27/10/2017 23:37

This is how I met my DH. I was in the USA he was in the UK. We "met" in a yahoo chatroom showing my age now. Down the pub if anyone remembers it Grin. We chatted for a couple of years before finally biting the bullet and meeting. Everything clicked. We have been married for 15 years and every thing is great. He is the dogs bolloxs as far as Im concerned.

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