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To have excluded ds2 from pizza treat and fed him spaghetti on toast? Because ex thinks I was

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theduchessstill · 25/10/2017 12:45

Two dc aged 10 & 8. Since they broke up on Friday the sitting room has become more and more toy-filled. At the weekend they built a civilisation involving pretty much every toy they own, and did play with it a lot. They didn't want to put it away as they intended to play with it again, but we've been out a lot since then and they never did.

Day out yesterday and I bought pizza on the way home as treat 'final' tea with me before they go to their dad's, which they did this morning. I made it clear they would have to clear up the sitting room before I cooked it. When we got in, ds2 refused: put one thing away and then sat whining. Ds1 got on with it without complaining. To my shame, ds2 also stuck his middle finger up at me several times (new thing he seems to have picked up from school I suppose). We had been down a coalmine and learnt about children who worked in them and at one point ds1 said to ds2, "at least we're not down a mine," and ds2 replied that it was fine for those children as that was the old days. That obviously made me more annoyed.

I followed through on my threat and ds2 ate some of his meal and spent the rest of the mealtime lying under the kitchen table where he planned to stay forever, being surreptitiously fed onion rings by ds1 (I pretended not to notice).

Finally, we talked about it and he apologised, came out, had a tiny slither of pizza and fruit for pudding with his brother. I dropped them off at ex's this morning and have just received a text saying 'Ds2 is starving after no proper meal last night, while ds2 had pizza. Can you clarify?'

FFS, I don't know what to reply. Why should I answer to him after the way he carries on? Was I wrong? Would I be wrong not to reply/ or reply something very terse? Ds1 would be more than capable of giving an honest account of what happened.

OP posts:
Bargainqueen · 26/10/2017 18:06

Spot on decision OP. Don't let him twist your actions. What he did was totally unacceptable and I would have done the same. He had food, just not the treat.

MrsDc7 · 26/10/2017 18:06

I think you're choice of punishment was fine. I'd have done the same. Your ex's response of 'better not let things escalate in future* makes me want to kick him in the conkers

MrsDc7 · 26/10/2017 18:07

*Your - my phone autocorrects to you're for some reason Angry

RingMasterto5 · 26/10/2017 18:07

I had this kind of relationship with my ex for years, don't raise to the bait and keep it simple. My DS's are now 20,18 and 11 and haven't seen him since March, it takes DEx weeks to answer their texts/emails but sends them snide comments when they don't answer the same day. They have learnt how he was/is by his own doing and now don't want relationship with him.
Wave and smile and don't take the bait!
As for original post, you were spot on! Have done similar in the past and wouldn't hesitate to do again.

manicmij · 26/10/2017 18:10

You did give DS food. He had the opportunity to have other special food as a treat, he didn't take opportunity to have it. Kids don't starve overnight by not eating once in a why anyway. Mean what you say and you did carry through. Good for you.

MrsDc7 · 26/10/2017 18:10

Oh never mind. The edit had worked Halo

Carriecakes80 · 26/10/2017 18:15

God, if my ex dared ask me to 'clarify' I would shove my foot up his arse. I was obviously good enough to make kids with him, and how dare he question me on how I'm raising them! I would have to say "Can you f&^%ing clarify why you are asking me to clarify??"

UninspiringUserName · 26/10/2017 18:15

OP, I think I love you.

ArcheryAnnie · 26/10/2017 18:18

Your ex sounds like an utter dick. You sound like a good parent who knows what reasonable discipline is, OP.

YANBU.

Maireadplastic · 26/10/2017 18:28

'Your - my phone autocorrects to you're for some reason'.

MrsDc- mine too. I just want to (capitals alert) shout, I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING! I KNOW HOW TO USE THE APOSTROPHE! at my phone.

Back to the thread....

GabsAlot · 26/10/2017 18:30

i really want tinned spaghetti now and i havnt got any

Eveforever · 26/10/2017 18:50

Possibly to my shame, but I could not have let this go. I would have answered with something along the lines of I agree of "I agree it would be best not to let things escalate in future, so if you could try harder to discipline the boys when they are with you and if we could put on a united front that would definitely help, thanks".

helloSW15 · 26/10/2017 18:57

I REALLY want tinned spaghetti as well now, preferably with little sausages in it as well...

bemusedmoose · 26/10/2017 19:04

You were completely fair - buy a treat they can have if they tidy, dont get it if they dont. The rules were clear and he broke them.

You didn't remove a mail meal, and he still got fed, just not awesome pizza because he didn't do awesome tidying. So the food shouldn't be used as punishment isnt a problem (dont even make me point out it shouldn't be used as a reward either! But we've all done it)

Just explain to ex he got tea, just not the one he wanted because swearing and laziness gets you nothing in life.

neveradullmoment99 · 26/10/2017 19:05

A better punishment is to pick all the toys up and carry them off in a black bag for the bin. That soon gets them tidying.

Urubu · 26/10/2017 19:10

Just realized I have never eaten tinned spaghetti... [misses point]

Sarahrellyboo1987 · 26/10/2017 19:11

@MrsOverTheRoad wow! You're a delightful one!
The child was fed - spaghetti not toast. Just not the treat for good behaviour that was pizza.

Personally I would respond with what you've put. I would then ground DS2 for lying!!

treacletoffee23 · 26/10/2017 19:38

O. P you sound like a lovely Mummy. I hope some of these comments have made you laugh.
Infact please adopt me -ill tidy up eat everything and promise not to lie under the table ( unless wine is involved) .

40andfucked · 26/10/2017 20:04

Just about to have pizza. I honestly do not deserve it! Neither did your son. YANBU but I’m glad it’s not your call on whether I’m allowed it tonight cause it would be a definite no Grin

StealthNinjaMum · 26/10/2017 20:57

@ProfessorCat

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OhLaVache · 26/10/2017 21:09

Really bad idea to reward and punish with food. Lots of other ways to discipline your kids...

smilingontheinside · 26/10/2017 21:31

Sorry but the ex would have been told where to go!!! Child was rude and lazy therefore no treat, he was fed so not starving and now he's told stories to his dad , think he needs sitting down and a chat about what is acceptable behaviour and why he didn't get treats and ex needs to mind his own beeswax when child is in your care you choose how to deal with situation at the time. Bloody kids are a pita (as are exes)

theduchessstill · 26/10/2017 21:42

Really bad idea to reward and punish with food. Lots of other ways to discipline your kids...

There aren't always lots of other options though. I always try to make consequences immediate and relevant, and this one was. I really had nowhere else to go - screen time is the thing ds2 most values, but as he gets it pretty much unlimited at his dad's and was going there the next morning, I wasn't going to get very far threatening to withdraw that. He knew he wasn't getting any that evening anyway.

Had I threatened to throw the toys away he would have claimed not to care. Had I confiscated any it would have had limited impact because of him going to his dad's - he tends not to take stuff between the two places anyway. Bed early would have seen him refusing to go and a huge amount of arguing etc...

I find it very hard trying to be firm and fair and consistent while being divorced,.

OP posts:
LaurieFairyCake · 26/10/2017 21:45

I would literally be responding to any texts with the words:

“that didn’t happen”.

And no further clarification.

treacletoffee23 · 26/10/2017 22:09

Duchess...you are being firm, fair and consistant. Unfortunately you dont seem to have the support of your ex. In an ideal world he would have backed you up. To those posters suggesting he was deprived of food.... he was fed, just not his favourite pizza, which woud have been a treat.

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