Is there a similar forum to MN for men? And if not, why not?

[Multidimensionalbeing]

Because I think there should be.

I don't hate men though it will probably be suggested. I really don't. And I think the forum should be open to anyone who wants to use it for advice.

But....It's becoming increasingly strange around here. We've always had the 'what about the menz?' posters derailing threads talking about the harrassment or abuse of women by pointing out that women do it too..... Though it seems worse recently.

But now it seems that so many threads descend into accusations that men are treated differently on MN and often they are. But surely that's because it has a predominantly female membership? Who will see things from the female perspective?

It seems to me that it's causing division and bun-fighting among posters when I genuinely don't understand why there isn't a similar forum available for men?

Why not?

Why does a man join a predominantly female forum to then point out that they're not being treated like a woman? Or....just sit and watch as the women do it for them?

If there is no where else for them on-line then why not?

I'm sure it's possible.

You don't think women need or should have or even want (since we don't really get any) safe spaces to talk about abuse larry?

We'd get the perves on that one tillytown

meltingmarshmallows I totally agree.

I've been on a few threads recently arguing against the use of NAMALT and 'women do it too' because they're unhelpful and dismissive when talking about women's issues (waves to Krytens). I see 'man here' as an extension of that - shouting over women's discussions because you believe your addition to the post is so worthwhile simply because you're male.

I think a housework thread would be favourite

A
Mooncup washingnthread would be useful. I've found varying results depending on product choice

AIBU is unique. Only the brave.

Multi,

Define ‘safe space’. Clearly in real life they do. You don’t want a hulking man present talking about your abuse. On the internet, on a public site, meh...

Anyone can be anyone. Real safe spaces are private and you know who is there.

‘Safe space’ is often just a code word for censorship of any dissenting opinion.

Safe space to discuss female issues = one without men butting in. HTH Larry. Though I am sure you have WONDERFUL advice to impart, some of us don't want it or appreciate it. Sorry!

I can't understand why men can not understand why I do not want someone else's husband telling me how to breastfeed or the best position for latching or how I might have avoided being beaten up or raped. Impart that wonderful knowledge to your own wife. You're not my husband. I don't value your opinion. I just don't. I didn't marry you.
I do however appreciate the advice of other women.

I didn't mention 'safe space' larry. You did - commenting that you are glad there is a 'backlash'. So it's obviously something you don't like or don't believe in.

I don't think anywhere on the internet is a safe space. But I do think it's polite to give women some space to talk about issues that effect them like abuse by men without men (or women) popping on to say NAMALT or complaining that women aren't treating men like they are other women.

Safe space to discuss female issues = one without men butting in. HTH Larry. Though I am sure you have WONDERFUL advice to impart, some of us don't want it or appreciate it. Sorry!

There's no such thing on the internet as a safe women's space. As anyone could pretend to be anyone on here. If you want a male free space to talk about issues, it's not going to happen on the internet as that'd be impossible to police.
Set up a real life support group if that's what you want?

So they've been reporting the fact that this conversation is even happening. You've got to admit that that's other level policing.

I know. Also find it hilarious that posters trying to shut down anyone who dared to have a differing opinion are now trying to advocate that it is now okay to have a different opinion.

Still, I guess I could see that as them suddenly gathering their senses and they've simply had a change of heart though.

Bob,

I think there is one key fact you do not quite grasp is your egotistical posts. It is not all about you, you don’t actually own or manage MN.

So no one really cares what you appreciate or don’t. As you would put it: HTH.

I have been the dissenting voice on some threads, and while this has its downside and can attract some irksome remarks I'm not made to feel like I'm intruding on a "safe space" or exclusive group. Contributions that deny, minimise and distract from the theme on a thread about women's experiences of being sexually assaulted by men are disappointing and quite different from disagreements about the best approach in dealing with a Christmas themed family dispute

Your constant responses to me Larry suggest otherwise

theres no such thing on the internet as a safe women's space
Thanks for that

I do wonder what kind of man sees a chat forum that has a female-specific name, and where around 95% of participants are women, and thinks “I know what this forum needs. MY OPINION!”.

Also notice how the threads about sex-specific issues that affect women often have men putting their two penneth in. Is male entitlement so strong that you think women actually want to hear what you have to say about abortion/the pill/periods/hysterectomies etc?

DrKroger. What about this thread? The men have felt the need to come on here and tell us all that they are here to stay.

So no one really cares what you appreciate or don’t. As you would put it: HTH.

I care bob i care

Is male entitlement so strong that you think women actually want to hear what you have to say about abortion/the pill/periods/hysterectomies etc?

Yep. Look at Larry and NewDaddie's posts on this thread - they don't think we should have our own spaces.

*my understanding is it’s very poor form to say you’re reporting^

Was that a dig at me Reindeer? I haven’t reported and didn’t say I had and I only know that other people have because MNHQ said they had.

You’ll have to find another reason to accuse me of being, a bit, well, weird.

So no one really cares what you appreciate or don’t.

I care.

Well it's important for them to be heard

To all mums of this thread opposed to male presence on MN, I'd love to see how you ll react when your boys are shut down for their male input few years down the line!

You don't think women need or should have or even want (since we don't really get any) safe spaces to talk about abuse larry?

Sorry, but pouring out abuse stories onto an international , global website is never a safe space to unload and never will be.
Some of the things that get shared on Mumsnet are so personal, and of course it's great that there's support out there.
It's never going to be safe anywhere if entire abuse history is laid bare and published.