Universal Credit won't be paid in months with 5 weeks. (WTF?) AIBU to think no one realises

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If you get paid weekly, and there are 5 weeks in a month, in those months your pay will likely go over the Universal Credit limit and your UC will be stopped. You will have to go without that month and apply again.

WTF are they thinking?

Have they never heard of averages FFS? (That's how Tax Credits works). This is going to screw over so many people. It's ludricous.

The people claiming UC aren't any richer that month, they get the same amount of money as if it was paid in 12 monthly chunks.

This will happen to thousands of people every time there's a month with 5 weeks. (I guess they mean 5 Mondays?)

This is farcical.

There's 5 weeks in January, so if you get paid weekly that's you fucked for February.

April, July, October and December also have 5 Mondays.

This is utterly farcical and just plain callous.

These posts really bring out the lovely side of people.

I honestly hope anyone in need gets the help they deserve ASAP.

I've worked in the Public Sector so have a rough idea how quickly work gets done. If they're that behind they need more help, more staff, end of!

Or even, 'Oh, I didn't realise diabetics need to have insulin nearby at all times in case of a blood sugar emergency so it was stupid to suggest they could keep their insulin at a pharmacy if they have no money for electricity to run the fridge.'

If Labour, where on earth would this country get the cash to do all those things?

The same place the Tories got the £1.5bn bung to the DUP to desperately cling on to power. Down the back of the sofa.

I think pharmacies can store medication for you.

My local pharmacy isn't big enough to swing a cat around. The Manager is very likely to ask you to laugh in your face if you asked him to store it for you. What a silly suggestion! The nearest one after that is two bus rides aways. Fair enough that one is bigger but um guessing people who haven't got two pennies to rub together for electric don't have the spare change for bus fare.

Also. Pharmacies dont really store medication. I think you're mistaking such medication as methadone etc, which have to be taken on site, under the supervision of a Pharmacist. They have been prepared there and then, not 'stored'.

I've worked in the Public Sector so have a rough idea how quickly work gets done.

I deal daily with HMRC. I've no doubt they work hard, but the same "hard working" people make so many mistakes, things have to be done again, and again. If they did things right in the first place, there'd be less "correctional work" that needed doing, hence more time to do the work.

No. They do store meds. But whilst you lot get wound up by it all some people are taking responsibility for themselves - just as everyone else does - or according to you does UC make you incapable of being practical, responsible and using common sense?

'No. They do store meds. But whilst you lot get wound up by it all some people are taking responsibility for themselves - just as everyone else does - or according to you does UC make you incapable of being practical, responsible and using common sense?'

You are just being deliberately thick. No one can be this stupid. Are you still not able to see how it will not work for an insulin-dependent diabetic to rely on a pharmacy to store their medication? Or that not all pharmacies can offer such a service because, well, they are in the service of dispensing medication, not providing a storage facility? The person needs access to their insulin at all times, even when a pharmacy is closed! DUH!

How was this poor man not 'taking responsibility' for himself? He was disabled and had NO money for food or to run the fridge. What was he supposed to do, magic up some money?

People have died because of these policies, and they were disabled and unable to work, but you claim this is just because they were thickos who had no personal responsibility? That would be psychotic if it weren't so completely ignorant.

www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/news-and-analysis/news/pharmacies-reviewing-viability-of-shops-and-investing-in-online-services-as-pharmacy-cuts-bite/20203819.article

200 Lloyds pharmacies to close.
FYI Kath

I do find it quite funny that people keep trotting out the Labour overspend myth. Only the Tories could spend £12Bn (and counting) on a system they said would cost £2Bn (Universal Credit) and let the schedule slip by a decade and voters would still believe they're the best with economy and don't waste money. Yawn. They do. Difference is, when Labour spend money it usually benefits the lowest in society instead of the richest.

It's infuriating that we appear to be living in a benign dictatorship, where it's quite alright for people to go starving. The Tories would quite happily have us working 24/7 for no money, no leisure time and no retirement. Even Mussolini let them dance around a maypole.

No. They do store meds

They really don't. Repeating something doesn't make it true. HTH.

No. They do store meds. But whilst you lot get wound up by it all some people are taking responsibility for themselves - just as everyone else does - or according to you does UC make you incapable of being practical, responsible and using common sense

Your response here is utterly sickening, and I’m quite frankly disgusted by the fact some people would agree with it.

Pharmacy isn’t open 24/7. Not everyone lives near a pharmacy/can even afford to get there.

The sheer fact this country is even at such a state that some seriously ill fellows can’t get to their life saving medication is down right absurd.

They have meds for prescribing not for storing for people who can't afford electricity.

If you can't differentiate between the two things and that of why things like methadone have to be taken under supervision (nothing to do with 'storing' it ) there's really no helping you.

The lack of compassion from posters like Kath is astounding but not surprising. Many Tory voters actually think like this. They blame the diabetic man for drying - he wasn't taking enough responsibility for himself. Never mind that he was ill and yet his electricity was cut because his benefits were cut/sanctioned. That'll all be his fault too.

Kath et al, I'd suggest you watch I, Daniel Blake - but it's probably a waste of time, as you won't actually see the problems portrayed in it, you'd simply say they were not taking responsibility for their own lives so deserved it.

I just can't get my head around the lack of empathy and outright hateful rhetoric you spout against people who have been less lucky in life, for whatever reason. I don't believe in a deserving/underserved paradigm, though. I believe in compassion for my fellow humans.

This whole UC thing is an utter farce, a shitstorm in the making which will force more people - including working people - into abject poverty.

Welcome to Tory Britain.

Hmm, no 'storing medications' listed. Just 'Supervised consumption of prescribed medications' which we all know means methadone (and possibly antabuse).

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Well there we have it then expat they don't store it as everyone said.

Maybe Kath should take their own advice and take responsibility...

Kath are you Theresa May?

I will try again. I have had type 1 diabetes for 10 years, I'm am insulin dependent and on multiple daily injections and have to manage my condition very carefully, thus taking full responsibility for my condition and general health. People with my condition will die if they don't have access to insulin. People with my condition have two insulins they need to take to stay alive, one with food containing carbohydrates, and a long acting insulin twice a day. Please do some research on the condition and on insulin so you understand the implications of having your life saving medication stored in a location that is only open 9-5 Monday - Friday. It is not workable.

Kath You do realise a type 1 diabeties is a medical condition, they are not addicted to insulin like heroin or weed! My brother went into a diabetic coma & nearly died last year,.

Fangs, this is what pisses me off - my brother can control his hypos if he can access his insulin. When he moved back home I gave him a TV so he had a fridge. If he had to wait 12-24 hours to access insulin he will be admitted to hospital as a drunk because he is dazed, confused and agitated. The last time he was admitted he was treated as a drunk until he went into a diabetic coma. He was 34, he was dx at 13.

Quite Meplus I myself have been hospitalised whilst suffering a DKA bought on by an illness, even with close management of my condition. I can't wait to run Kaths gem past my Consultant and see his response. Perhaps those espousing such suggestions would rather hospital wards be full of mismanaged diabetics suffering DKA's or extreme hypos as they can't store their insulin correctly.

KathArtic Sat 28-Oct-17 08:18:24
Q: Didn’t one die because his insulin couldn’t be kept cold as he couldn’t pay his electric bill?
Kath: I think pharmacies can store medication for you.

Maybe Kath thinks people take insulin on a schedule like antibiotics?
If so, maybe Kath needs to do a little googling.

If she isn't operating under this huge misapprehension, then maybe she needs to exercise her imagination a little, and ask herself a few obvious questions about opening hours and the fact that not everyone lives next door to a pharmacy.

'thinks all people with various forms of diabetes take insulin on a schedule'

If Kath happens to be a person who really holds these views (and I desperately hope she's not, that she's just on the wind-up) the explaining to her that you might die without medication (and indeed food and heat) is unlikely to bother her. Dead people don't cost money. That's a good thing to people that see people's worth and right to life based on their income.

treacle people like Kath truly believe that people who are poor are so due to personal and moral failing - it is truly and entirely their own fault and so they deserve to be punished. People like this believe those who die like that died because they just didn't try hard enough 'take responsibility'.