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AIBU to feel disappointed and hurt?

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Cygnet44 · 21/10/2017 12:02

Quick overview of my situation:
Have been with DP for a little over 3 years, we have both turned 50 this year and have been previously married, have our own grown up DC etc. We have a fantastic relationship and we love each other dearly, he is loving and thoughtful.
We do not live together but see each other regularly; I stay over most weekends etc.
We have recently been talking about buying a house together; my house is on the market, we have viewed a couple and spoken to a mortgage advisor.
Before I met my DP, my best friend and I planned and saved for a 50th birthday trip of a lifetime to New York. When I met my DP, he was invited, so it turned into 4 of us going; my best friend took her DH. We have just returned from this 7 night trip and we had an amazing time. However it was spoilt for me by the actions and inaction of my DP and I just cannot believe he did the following to me:

In the run up to this trip, on two occasions, my DP said to me he may propose to me; the first time he said this I felt it was said off the cuff, I responded that he can't say things like that and not follow through because I would be disappointed if it didn't happen and it could ruin my trip.
The second time about 3 weeks before we went, he was telling me about a conversation he had had with a friend and he told me he had said to his friend he may even propose to me on the top of the Empire State building and that he was confident if he asked me, I would say yes. I said that would be amazing and I would probably cry with happiness.
Fast forward to this last week; we went to Empire State building and no proposal, nothing, no acknowledgement of it at all. I ended up feeling very hurt and disappointed, even rejected.
I decided not to say anything because I didn't want it to ruin my trip.
But my DP reads me like a book, because a day later he asked me what was up. I had to tell him the truth; I was disappointed, I couldn't understand why he had said it and then not followed through etc.

I just want to make it clear at this point that I had no expectations about getting engaged to this man anytime soon, if he hadn't said anything it would not have been an issue for me. The issue is he said it, he put the idea in my head and gave me an expectation, then failed to do anything. He knows that at some stage in our relationship I would like us to marry eventually. I truly thought that with our plans to buy a home together and the recent activity relating to this that this was the next natural step he wanted to take by saying it.

He didn't have an answer for me, in fact he went silent, no explanation, and a biggie for me; absolutely no acknowledgement of my feelings and no apology. Instead he suggested we go to Macy's and he will buy me a 'commitment' ring. I asked what does that even look like or mean and he said he didn't know! This actually made it worse for me and I told him it's not what I want and it's obviously not want he really wants either as no thought had gone into this.

I put all my feelings aside and went on to make sure I enjoyed every minute of my visit. We still had fun together because we are best friends as well as lovers and he is great to be around.
But I had a grey cloud over this and it has made me really question our relationship.

We arrived home to his place yesterday; we talked and I got upset; I told him I felt his behaviour was cruel and I am deeply hurt, even more so because of his inability to tell me why he said it and then didn't do anything, I said if he really wanted to, he would have done it. He said he didn't know if he wanted commitment, wished he had kept his mouth shut and really didn't set out to purposely upset me.

I was planning on staying the rest of the weekend but I made a decision to go straight home and stay there for the weekend. I got up to leave and he was surprised I was going. He asked me to stay the night and I said no. He then said come back tomorrow and we'll go and get a ring. I was gobsmacked! I said no, I'm not coming back, it's not how I want it to be, I don't want this if it's not what he wants too, that I feel he's only doing this to make me feel better, I don't want a sympathy ring.

I left with us both in tears and now I'm at home. The more I think about the whole situation, the more upset and angry I become. I feel hurt, rejected, and cannot believe he has done this to us, I'm still none the wiser.
I haven't spoken to him since, we've had the odd text message, the last one being this morning asking me how I'm feeling. I've not replied as yet, I don't know what else to say to him that I haven't already said.
AIBU to feel like this, am I overreacting?
I just feel it's cruel to raise someone's expectations and then dash them without explanation or apology.

OP posts:
AcrossthePond55 · 21/10/2017 22:20

Of course he doesn't want the woman to propose! Because that attitude puts him in control of the whole thing, doesn't it? You wait, he decides what happens next. Or doesn't as the case may be. Bollocks to that. I can understand him being marriage-shy if his first marriage was as bad as you say, but if that's the case, then he needs to man-up and say "I never want to remarry". There isn't anything wrong with someone NOT wanting to get married. What's wrong is not being up front about it.

If you want to marry him (and I'd be having great reservations about that now) then you need to sit him down and say "We need a marriage plan. Not tomorrow, but we do need some sort of timetable. If you aren't sure enough about marriage or me for that, then I think we both need to rethink this relationship because we obviously want different things".

Is there a reason you want to marry? You're financially independent, already have children and (I assume) don't want more. Why marry then? You could tie a house purchase up right and tight for yourself and for your heirs better (or just as well) as unmarried partners than you could as spouses.

KatsutheClockworkOctopus · 21/10/2017 22:30

So - before you met, you planned a special trip. He then came on the scene and not only made your trip all about him/the proposal, he also then spoiled your once in a lifetime experience by not actually proposing ?
Have to say OP it would take more than romantic notes with my lunch to forgive that. I don't think he sounds like a very kind person at all.

Nettletheelf · 21/10/2017 22:37

Sounds as if he might be all about the grand gesture with no substance behind it. All talk and no trousers. Roses! Love notes in your lunchbox! Couples’ massages! Hinting at dramatic romantic proposals!

The real man behind all the razzmatazz doesn’t live up to the hype he has created.

ReanimatedSGB · 21/10/2017 23:39

TBH I think you should cut your losses. He's shown you who he really is: a man who has to be the one in control of the relationship. decisions ar up to him, not you. This whole business of The Proposal is a sign of an arsehole man anyway - once the subject is mentioned, you either shit or get off the pot: ie you have a discussion about whether or not the two of you actually want to get married and, if you both do (or at least say you do) you set out the timescale and start making plans.

bridgetreilly · 22/10/2017 00:04

Well, I may be the only one but it sounds like a massive over-reaction to me. Yes, it was stupid and careless of him, but until someone actually proposes, there's no commitment to do so, and I don't think you should then blame him for not feeling like it was the right time for him. Clearly afterwards, he did his best to try and put it right but clearly went about it the wrong way. I don't see anything to suggest he was being cruel or trying to hurt you. And perhaps if the two of you are so unable to understand each other, it's better that you're not thinking about marriage.

ChristmasFluff · 22/10/2017 00:17

He totally set you up. He is a cruel person - or at the very least a person who doesn't give a damn about your feelings. Do you want to spend the rest of your life, or indeed any time, with a person like that?

scottishdiem · 22/10/2017 00:58

I am on team bridgetreilly

DelilahDarcey · 22/10/2017 17:06

Have you heard anymore from him OP?

Cygnet44 · 22/10/2017 20:39

DelilahDarcey he text me last night to say goodnight (he always does if we're not together). I hadn't heard from him all day today, he was giving me the space I asked for I believe.
I text him this evening to ask if we could meet this Tuesday evening to talk and he said of course and my choice as to where. So he is coming over to mine.
He then asked me if I wanted to talk on the phone later on. I responded that I would like to but our conversation is better said face to face. He respected that and said 'I won't ask how you are as it cannot be said via text, let's talk Tuesday'.
I asked how he was and he said he's 'been better' and that he 'cannot lie, a few tears have been shed'. I just responded 'me too'.

I will be really honest with him when I see him and will be clear that he affords me the same courtesy. I know we will be able to have a constructive conversation.

OP posts:
keeponworking · 22/10/2017 20:45

Best of luck with the meeting OP.

Sugarpiehoneyeye · 22/10/2017 21:40

Keep it real and hear him out Cygnet.
Hope it works out.🌻

Jux · 22/10/2017 21:50

Good luck for Tuesday, cygnet

Hlr37 · 30/04/2022 22:54

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Thelnebriati · 30/04/2022 23:09

@Cygnet44 Have you heard of 'future faking'? I think you should look into it, its a red flag. Future faking is used to create the illusion of a connection.
www.health.com/relationships/future-faking

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A zombie thread, but I’d love to know the outcome. Does anyone know? I’m very over invested in it now!

AnAfternoonWalk · 30/04/2022 23:40

whatsavings · 21/10/2017 13:31

If he wanted to propose, nothing on earth would have stopped him.

He is now panicking that he's shown his hand too soon, and that he's losing the chance to own another house, with you standing to lose the deposit & equity on your old property.

Cancel your house sale. Stay put, & thank god for a close escape.

I agree with this. What he did to you was very flippant and cruel.

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AnAfternoonWalk · 30/04/2022 23:44

He was keeping you sweet for the house deal. Dangling a carrot in front of you.

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