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AIBU to feel disappointed and hurt?

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Cygnet44 · 21/10/2017 12:02

Quick overview of my situation:
Have been with DP for a little over 3 years, we have both turned 50 this year and have been previously married, have our own grown up DC etc. We have a fantastic relationship and we love each other dearly, he is loving and thoughtful.
We do not live together but see each other regularly; I stay over most weekends etc.
We have recently been talking about buying a house together; my house is on the market, we have viewed a couple and spoken to a mortgage advisor.
Before I met my DP, my best friend and I planned and saved for a 50th birthday trip of a lifetime to New York. When I met my DP, he was invited, so it turned into 4 of us going; my best friend took her DH. We have just returned from this 7 night trip and we had an amazing time. However it was spoilt for me by the actions and inaction of my DP and I just cannot believe he did the following to me:

In the run up to this trip, on two occasions, my DP said to me he may propose to me; the first time he said this I felt it was said off the cuff, I responded that he can't say things like that and not follow through because I would be disappointed if it didn't happen and it could ruin my trip.
The second time about 3 weeks before we went, he was telling me about a conversation he had had with a friend and he told me he had said to his friend he may even propose to me on the top of the Empire State building and that he was confident if he asked me, I would say yes. I said that would be amazing and I would probably cry with happiness.
Fast forward to this last week; we went to Empire State building and no proposal, nothing, no acknowledgement of it at all. I ended up feeling very hurt and disappointed, even rejected.
I decided not to say anything because I didn't want it to ruin my trip.
But my DP reads me like a book, because a day later he asked me what was up. I had to tell him the truth; I was disappointed, I couldn't understand why he had said it and then not followed through etc.

I just want to make it clear at this point that I had no expectations about getting engaged to this man anytime soon, if he hadn't said anything it would not have been an issue for me. The issue is he said it, he put the idea in my head and gave me an expectation, then failed to do anything. He knows that at some stage in our relationship I would like us to marry eventually. I truly thought that with our plans to buy a home together and the recent activity relating to this that this was the next natural step he wanted to take by saying it.

He didn't have an answer for me, in fact he went silent, no explanation, and a biggie for me; absolutely no acknowledgement of my feelings and no apology. Instead he suggested we go to Macy's and he will buy me a 'commitment' ring. I asked what does that even look like or mean and he said he didn't know! This actually made it worse for me and I told him it's not what I want and it's obviously not want he really wants either as no thought had gone into this.

I put all my feelings aside and went on to make sure I enjoyed every minute of my visit. We still had fun together because we are best friends as well as lovers and he is great to be around.
But I had a grey cloud over this and it has made me really question our relationship.

We arrived home to his place yesterday; we talked and I got upset; I told him I felt his behaviour was cruel and I am deeply hurt, even more so because of his inability to tell me why he said it and then didn't do anything, I said if he really wanted to, he would have done it. He said he didn't know if he wanted commitment, wished he had kept his mouth shut and really didn't set out to purposely upset me.

I was planning on staying the rest of the weekend but I made a decision to go straight home and stay there for the weekend. I got up to leave and he was surprised I was going. He asked me to stay the night and I said no. He then said come back tomorrow and we'll go and get a ring. I was gobsmacked! I said no, I'm not coming back, it's not how I want it to be, I don't want this if it's not what he wants too, that I feel he's only doing this to make me feel better, I don't want a sympathy ring.

I left with us both in tears and now I'm at home. The more I think about the whole situation, the more upset and angry I become. I feel hurt, rejected, and cannot believe he has done this to us, I'm still none the wiser.
I haven't spoken to him since, we've had the odd text message, the last one being this morning asking me how I'm feeling. I've not replied as yet, I don't know what else to say to him that I haven't already said.
AIBU to feel like this, am I overreacting?
I just feel it's cruel to raise someone's expectations and then dash them without explanation or apology.

OP posts:
BellaNoche · 21/10/2017 13:37

Oh Cygnet
What a rotten thing to have happen to you.
It reminds me of the childrens' rhyme Grand Old Duke of York marching up to the top of the Empire State and marching back down again.

You must hurt like hell I'm so sorry Flowers

I think he is afraid of commitment but not so afraid that he would be ok to have his name on a new property with you putting the equity in.

Keep your own place, he is not worthy of you.

MrsOverTheRoad · 21/10/2017 13:37

OP he sounds terrible. That's seriously weird...a weird thing to do.

I'd leave him.

ChilliMary · 21/10/2017 13:43

Sounds like he does not know what he wants. He sounds confused.

AntiGrinch · 21/10/2017 13:44

Don't buy the house with him. If you have a property and he doesn't, you have more to lose and you may find it hard to disentangle your finances in the future so that you can get your own place again.

If the non-living together, friends & lovers relationship works for you then you may find a way to keep it going, but it sounds as if you will struggle to be happy with him after this.

FizzyGreenWater · 21/10/2017 13:44

Quite crap.

The one thing I would say is put all the house stuff on hold. Take yours off the market for now.

Ginkypig · 21/10/2017 13:45

The one thought that screams out to me is this

You are supposed to be buying a house together but he has told you he's is "not sure he wants commitment"

What the hell is buying a house together then?

This is much bigger than him not proposing. You need to take a big step back and really look at the relationship in its true state not just the view you had of it before he hurt your feelings. In my view the non proposal is almost a red herring although it has been a spark for you to see more clearly the reality of your situation with him.

Ceto · 21/10/2017 13:48

I really don't get this idea of making an appointment to propose. Surely if he plans to propose he should just do it, not tell you that he's going to?

52FestiveRoad · 21/10/2017 13:48

I think ReanimatedSGB has got it spot on with the doggie treat analogy. He did this to keep you in line, keep you keen, so you keep hoping that he will propose and he will be in a constant state of 'oh well I was just about to'. I think you have now sent him into a panic as you did not react the way he was expecting, so he is desperately trying another angle - a commitment ring- which sounds to me the sort of thing teenage school children give each other, like a plastic ring from a cracker. It is meaningless!

I think he has shown his true colours and you should definitely step away from the relationship.

Whocansay · 21/10/2017 13:50

He doesn't want commitment. He's said so. He does want to keep you hanging though.

You don't say you're going to propose. That's weird. You just do it.

thecatfromjapan · 21/10/2017 13:51

Really glad you're taking your house off the market.

Apart from all the other nonsense - he stole your birthday and made it about him and his maybe-yes-maybe-no proposal-to-propose-a-maybe-engagement.

And I think SGB may be right, too.

Kolonya · 21/10/2017 13:51

It sounds like he bottled it, so you may be seeing his true feelings. It doesn't feel like he is 100% committed to you, tbf, well, definitely not as much as you. I think you need to think hard about this relationship and perhaps it is a good thing that you got early warning signals?

Nanny0gg · 21/10/2017 13:51

I can see why you're upset but I've never understood why couples discuss proposals anyway.

I understand talking about possible futures, but then surely you either both move forward together and a wedding is inevitable or one person decides they want to propose and goes ahead and does it.

What's the point of saying 'I'm going to propose on such-and-such a date or in such-and-such a place'? No surprise then, is it?

Hohofortherobbers · 21/10/2017 13:53

Well he really screwed this up didn't he? Perhaps he got spooked and suddenly wasn't sure. Will be difficult to come back from this though. I wouldnt throw the towel in yet OP, but I would not be buying a house together. I would have some time and space alone to decide if you want to try again, then go slowly, start dating him again and make it clear a proposal isn't wanted anytime soon

Cambionome · 21/10/2017 13:54

What really weird thing for him to do! Confused
Has he been able to give you any explanation for why he behaved like this?

MatildaTheCat · 21/10/2017 13:55

He's conflicted and he has a big mouth. So when he's totally loved up and happy he spouts about proposing on top of the ESB. When he's in his more rational mind he doesn't feel ready.

So he needs to do some serious thinking. Either he wants a life partner whom he lives with and marries or he's just not ready and want a fun relationship with no commitments. He can't have both.

I suspect this will confirm to him that he loves you and is an idiot. However, beware the never ending engagement. If he does go down on his bended knee, profess his love and his total knobness for his previous behaviour, only accept if a date is set and stuck to.

Out of interest, did he have a horrible divorce? That does, in fairness make it harder but does not excuse his really mean stunt. At least he does now see it was a mean stunt. Some men people are just so oblivious to how much that could hurt.

AcrossthePond55 · 21/10/2017 13:55

Why would someone 'announce' that they're going to propose? Isn't the phrase 'pop the question', not 'make a 24 point 'plan' and then tell your partner what you're going to do'? I thought the whole point was the surprise.

You're right to take the house off the market. And I agree with others than now any proposal might make me feel he was doing it under duress.

FluttershysCutieMark · 21/10/2017 13:58

I think you should take some time to think it over OP. This is your life, your real life, not a soap opera. It's all well and good people giving their opinion and it's much easier to tell someone to leave a 3 year relationship when it isn't their own.

Take a step back, and when ready, discuss it with him, I would certainly advise you to not make a rash decision on the basis of what randoms on the Internet advise.

He was a prat, he may have got swept up in the idea of proposing in NYC, but it was very unfair of him to tell you when he wasn't sure himself.

Piratesandpants · 21/10/2017 14:00

In summary, he has told you (through his behaviour) that he doesn’t want to marry you. I know you didn’t ask him, but he’s told you this anyway. You need to decide what that means - a future for you both or not? You’ve also had an insight into what sort of a person he is - you should take that into account when you make your decision.

WinteryWalk · 21/10/2017 14:08

Oh OP, that’s utterly rubbish, I’d give him a wide berth for a few days whilst you have a think about what you want to do Flowers

Sugarpiehoneyeye · 21/10/2017 14:10

I agree, he's been very cruel. You are being very brave, I'm sure you're hurting like hell, right now. However, I don't think he does want to marry you, but he does want to buy a house with you.
I would draw a line now, and take your house off the market. Don't waste anymore of your precious time. 💐

Aeroflotgirl · 21/10/2017 14:10

To me, his behaviour makes me think he's not committed to you, he sounds flakey and not sure what he wants. I certainly would not be buying a house with him, and if you have a house on the market, take it off straight away. Take time to think about it, and if you do want to make a go of it, it will be with the thought that he is not committed to you right now, and is still not sure what he wants.

IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 21/10/2017 14:15

OP, of course you're disappointed. You want him to WANT to marry you, not see it as some kind of favor he's doing you.

Take your house off the market. Tell him to sort himself out before he strings you along again. I'm sorry you're going through this hurt, but you've done the right thing in laying the law down.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 21/10/2017 14:21

You are both 50. Old enough to know that life isn't about unspontaneous, stage managed, faux romantic gestures. If you want to get married then have an adult conversation about it.

You don't need to be hanging on a string waiting til he decides to ask you.

happypoobum · 21/10/2017 14:22

What was he going to put into the joint house?

I think you need to protect yourself emotionally and financially from him.

expatinscotland · 21/10/2017 14:37

SGB is spot on. Under NO condition would I buy a house with this man. So glad you are taking it off the market. It'd be game over for me, I'm afraid. He sees you as a way of getting back on the property ladder the easy way. Take some time out and focus on you.