To secretly fill a Christmas Charity shoebox with as good as new toys?

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I've filled an authentic one already. But all things considered I could do a great job of 'nearly new' version.

Or is this very bad karma?

I’m glad Anne posted.

Biangala
On the grapevine?
Its common knowledge what SP does. And as for their glorious leader a 5 minute Google will tell you all yiu need to know about him and his repulsive views and just how much money he is pocketing from this 'charity'.

It says quite clearly on thier website what they put in the shoeboxes. What it doesn't tell you re persuading kids to sign the damm book and convert (but what people have witnessed first hand and many left the organisation because of it) is easy to find too.

I understand that Richard Dawkins is tireless in his fundraising efforts for charity so perhaps he could help out? Oh, no, wait.....

Because he is the only atheist in the world........oh, wait......

Can someone please tell me what is so bad about Christian evangelism that it gets such a bad press in the West? Other religions proselytise too, don't they? As a child growing up in Africa, I came face-to-face with christian evangelism, muslim conversion and our own traditional paganism, amongst others, but it did not harm me. In fact, it gave me a broad outlook on life and enabled me to make an informed decision as to whether to follow a particular religion or none.

Bab

It is bad when it is prioritising people in crisis with bribes to get them to convert. Telling victims of disasters that they will get aid but only if they attend a christian service first. Giving kids boxes of stuff so long as they read the book inside and promise to convert after they have read it even though they already have thier own religion.

Making racial, cultural, bigoted and homophobic views public while still professing to be a christian is bad in all ways possible. Making it your lifes mission to eradicate all other religions as they are anti christian/anti American/anti your blinkered views is bad.

I understand that Richard Dawkins is tireless in his fundraising efforts for charity so perhaps he could help out? Oh, no, wait.....

Perhaps you should have done some research

www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/richard-dawkins#charities

British Humanist Association
Doctors Without Borders
Richard Dawkins Foundation
Save the Rhino

Causes supported 6
Animals, Conservation, Disaster Relief, Education, Health, Philanthropy

That's one person.

How many Christians are there?

AnneGrommit - just because somebody doesn't support same sex marriage, it doesn't mean that person is homophobic

please tell me what is so bad about Christian evangelism that it gets such a bad press in the West? Other religions proselytise too, don't they?

I think all evangelism is bad. The other religions are not the ones bribing children with gifts provided by British families who have no idea this is happening though.

Anyone trying to force their religious beliefs on others is wrong.Religion is a personal matter and not to be forced where it's not wanted or people are put in a situation where they have no choice but to listen. I wouldn't lecture people and demand they give up their beliefs in theor gods and become atheists. I have no belief in any god. I have no right to force that on others.

Sally

He supports Putin on the beating up of, abduction of and humiliation of homosexuals.
He is horrified that gay men are allowed to be scout leaders as it will set the rot in the scout movement and the boys will be in danger of being converted.
He supports 'conversion therapy' of homosexuals which has been banned in USA.

The man is a walking hate monger.

AnneGrommit - just because somebody doesn't support same sex marriage, it doesn't mean that person is homophobic

You are going to have to explain that to me

@babba "Can someone please tell me what is so bad about Christian evangelism that it gets such a bad press in the West? "

The current generation of mainly American fundamentalist Christian evangelists (people who share many of the ideas of Franklin Graham, head of Samaritan's Purse, which runs Operation Christmas Child) are particularly hateful: their anti-gay, anti-contraception and anti-abortion agenda can be held responsible for many deaths, in my opinion.
www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-kaoma-uganda-gays-american-ministers-20140323-story.html

And their influence at home has led to Trump's ban on giving US funds to any organisation which even mentions abortion, even if they do not actually carry out abortions and their main activities are in general health care: www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/23/trump-abortion-gag-rule-international-ngo-funding

The appeal I go through, everything is handed out in schools, and we get photos at the end.

I have 36 boxes in my lounge, waiting to be delivered tomorrow. We have done a mix of new toys and 'lightly loved'. I do every year. As does my friend, and she makes 200.

So, going back to original question, YANBU. X

What I don't understand with the outrage r.e. occ is yes, they are Christian but the boxes are sent out at Christmas, A Christian event. So if they didn't get sent out the real life difference for the child is they wouldn't get anything, for a celebration they previously didn't take part in? But if they do get sent them and they say they are Christian they continue getting them meaning they basically do what the majority of the UK do and celebrate Christianity once a year in December ? I'm not being today I honestly don't understand. What real life effect does it have day to day?