Aibu to not know why you wouldn't be able to feed your DC's breakfast?

[Bearlover16]

Daughters school has recently extended the 'paid' breakfast club to 'free' breakfast club due to an increase in the number of children going to school not having had any breakfast.

Are people really that much on the bread line that they cannot buy a loaf of bread or some cheap porridge oats for less than a quid?

I'm not well off by any means and I do donate to food banks when I can. I also ensure my dcs have had breakfast before leaving the house as I was always led to believe it's the most important meal of the day.

Yellow as I explained earlier, DH was self employed when DS2 was born, HB insisted he signed on.

For those who ask why I can only do morning interviews, DH comes home at 1, makes and has lunch and falls asleep on the sofa. He's knackered. Also, he goes to the market once a week to save money.

Also, I suspect from experience that if I left DH to look after the DC, they'd have beans on toast every night. It's funny, he'll cook proper meals for himself.

Also wannabe, DS1 is far too ill to look after anyone else, even if he did live here. He spends the whole morning doing meds and physio, naps during the day and goes to bed earlier than DD, with his fucking night feed plugged in. I'm not asking someone who's lucky to be alive to take responsibility for 2 DC, especially DS2.

Because they don't have any twilight shifts available wannabe. I'm on the websites constantly looking for jobs.

What I'm saying is, there are people too ill to work. DS1 doesn't even get the full rate of DLA. He's has one disease he was born with, one caused by the other, and has been in remission from cancer for a few months.

He was permanently in hospital for months, he couldn't have worked. 24 hours of chemo (more could have killed him), 2 weeks on IV antibiotics, then another 24 hours of chemo. Luckily, he kind of relaxes in hospital, he feels safe.

Evil, with regards interview clothes there are I think charities that help people with that. I'm not sure whether they cover your circumstances but might be worth a look.

@EvilDoctorBallerinaVampireDuck I would ask for that to be looked at as he definitely should be getting the highest rate of PIP or DLA. It’s a gateway benefit so could lead to other help for him too.
It’s difficult from a disabled persons view to get everything you need- I feel for him. So young.
I know you don’t want to hear it but all the big supermarket chains are employing now for Christmas and it’s a way ‘in’.

Evil

I can't believe the lack of compassion for all you are dealing with on here. You are clearly coping well in a horribly difficult situation.

I can't believe the lack of compassion for all you are dealing with on here

It's not lack of compassion, it's a number of 'I'm alright Jacks' who clearly have no bloody clue. But that was evident many pages back. Evil.

We've been fighting it since he was diagnosed at 5 wannabe. He's got nothing wrong with his legs so doesn't get the mobility part, even though he can't walk for more than 10 minutes and shouldn't walk in the rain at all.

I am not lacking in compassion nor understanding. I just look at the bigger picture to try and resolve things and can have tunnel vision until it’s sorted (dog with a bone). I am sorry if I offended you.
I know what it’s like to have nothing. My dad was a coal miner and we lived in dire poverty when he was on strike. He was also mentally ill so subsequent Work was sporadic. I do het higher rate lifetime aware DLA (although this will change to pip at some point) and in some respects am my own worst enemy. I have to work - for my mental health and for my children’s sake.
Anyway I am sure you have thought of all the options. I apologise if I across as patronising or that I have all the answers. I don’t.

There’s always going to be excuses/justifications

If your not sick or disabled then you should be working, training or looking for work
I don’t think you should be starving, but that’s why we have JSA

If you are sick or disabled you could still be working but should not be under the same pressures and should be helped to get over the sickness or get help with the disability in order to do something

If you are terminally ill or mentally incapable of work, or have an incredibly debilitating condition then by all means live on benefits.

Like wise if you have a baby under 1year old and no way to get childcare.

You are the people it is meant for 😊

I just thought you were point scoring wannabe. I was pointing out that some people who are ill can't work.

Hope the treatment's helping.

Daisy - so fucking magnanimous - not!!

"If your not sick or disabled then you should be working, training or looking for work
I don’t think you should be starving, but that’s why we have JSA" again NOT ENOUGH JOBS massive cuts to training and education

"If you are sick or disabled you could still be working but should not be under the same pressures and should be helped to get over the sickness or get help with the disability in order to do something" cuts to health services, social services, charities have lost funding, employers market - employers don't employ sick or disabled unless made to and often treat them like shit.

"Like wise if you have a baby under 1year old and no way to get childcare." Wow! Even tories disagree there! Affording benefits to those with children up to age 3. Childcare - yep cuts again!

The system is generous in the country and there is help with education.

If you work 20 hours a week, are a FT Student and claim WTC and CTC you will get £48,500 a year and 70% help with childcare. I worked this out on the calculator for you 😊

So yes, it is not that hard.
I am sick and disabled and I still go to University. It takes a few hours a week.

I think a lot of people make excuses tbh.

& why should I put my kid into childcare at 6months so we can afford to pay for your kids? Doesn’t seem fair to me at all 🙄

Feed your kids breakfast. You have to do it at the weekends don’t you and school holidays?

& no I don’t agree with the conservative government. I’ve never voted for them and never will.

Why should I be magnanimous to lazy people? I’ve been below the poverty line and I got the fuck back over it.

& nobody in my house ever went without breakfast.

Ever.

The system is not generous. Benefits are not adequate, and are being cut even further. I suppose some of you smug dumbfucks genuinely don't get it, because you bought your homes more than 20 years ago, or have always had family able to bail you out. But the biggest factor in poverty, outside of deliberate choices by the government to transfer money from the poor to the rich, is the housing bubble. Housing costs, now, are often more than half a family's income. Wages are low and haven't risen for years. Companies are being allowed to exploit the workforce via all sorts of loopholes.

And, also, we need to lose the fetishization of 'work' or at least think about it more logically. Many of the most essential jobs (nursing, teaching, food service, care of the elderly etc) are poorly paid. Many of the jobs people are ordered to take are not only poorly paid but utterly fucking pointless and benefit no one. If you support the idea of 'workfare' are you really happy with the idea that wealthy private corporations are allowed to reduce their salaried workforce in order to benefit from free labour?

And patronising too! Delightful!

I've been a full time student with a toddler, also sick & disabled as is my dd.

You may have been lucky in your experience with the benefits system MANY haven't been as lucky.

Every single time there's been a policy change its affected us negatively and taken MONTHS to resolve. My dd has never gone without, but I have.

And NO many people ARE in such poverty that children are sadly going without food at weekends and in holidays.

Never voted Tory really - ukip?

@EvilDoctorBallerinaVampireDuck I realised it reads like that and I should reread what I write. Sorry x

Im a single parent about to have my esa medical and im terrified i fail it as it means 6wks minimum with no money and i have a 2yo ds.

Really hope that doesn't happen, ItsNacho, but if it does, claim income support straight away and seek a mandatory reconsideration. If that fails, appeal. Once your appeal form has been received by the tribunal service, your ESA can be reinstated.

Never voted Tory, never voted UKIP.

Don’t agree with workfare.

Don’t try to pigeon hole people through your narrow world view.

& no I don’t own a house yet. My family don’t give me FA.

20 years ago I was 7 😂

If you are not feeding a baby then social services remove them from your care, why should it not be the same if the child is 4 or 5 or 6

"Brilliant idea Daisy - cur benefits by £X per week, starve families into submission and then take their children into care at a cost of £XXX per week."

Well said. Then when they've been punted round the care system throughout their formative years, they'll be left so bloody damaged that they'll end up dysfunctional and chaotic, be left to fend for themselves with minimal support, and won't be able to manage to feed their own kids breakfast when they have them.

Daisy, you are so naive you must surely be one of the people who believes what they read in the Daily Mail.

lakielady i had saw on my medical notes an esa113 form was asked for. This is the first time one has been requested. Having a look online suggests: A GP will only be asked to complete an ESA113 if:

it could result in the patient’s entitlement to additional financial support being confirmed on paper evidence, without need for a face to face assessment, or
if, in the case of reassessing the patient’s continuing entitlement to Employment and Support Allowance, it could result in ongoing entitlement being confirmed without need for another face to face assessment
So im hopeful there is a good outcome

I never read the daily mail (well maybe once a year for the comedy value 🙄)

If social services started cracking down on children not feeding their kids then it would cause a domino effect and people would start to buck their ideas.

Certainly not naive. 😊

You don’t read the independent do you??

Not feeding your kids is neglect 😂