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... A bit upset to be referred to, by a 3rd party, as 'huge'?

552 replies

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 11/10/2017 10:21

Just this....

Someone referred to me as this... You'll recognise her.. She's the huge girl...

Apart from rudeness... At what size does someone become 'huge'.. I appreciate it's all relative etc etx...

PS I'm an (in proportion) size 18-20 and 5 foot 8. So to me tallish and curvy...

OP posts:
KH369 · 11/10/2017 12:42

That's bang out of order! (I'd have slapped them) my mum is about the same as you give or take a bit of height and i wouldn't dare refer to her as 'huge' - not just because that's my mother and she can still bollock me, but because I know from personal experience how comments about weight can affect a persons mental well being and it's just plain cruel, regardless of whether said in jest or not. And also, in my opinion, my mother is not 'huge' anyway - she just likes wine ;)

Frillyhorseyknickers · 11/10/2017 12:50

At size 20 I would consider you huge, but I would never tell you that and I certainly wouldn't describe you as that to other people.

NerrSnerr · 11/10/2017 12:51

It’s rude to describe someone by their weight, whether they’re fat or thin.

It’s all relative though isn’t it. I’m 5ft1 and a size 12/14 (rediscovered food after a whole pregnancy with hg) and I feel massive. I hate it. If someone’s comfortable being big then that’s fine. It’s a tricky message though because even though it’s ok for a grown adult to choose to be unhealthy we should be ensuring our children are fit and healthy and the ‘it’s ok to be whatever size you want’ conflicts with the concern about obese children.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/10/2017 12:51

I've no doubt this thread will be deleted sooner or later, but while it's still going I agree the comment was rude and I wish OP hadn't been hurt

That said, it's hard to ignore medics' constant warnings that the obesity crisis is bringing the NHS to its knees. There are undoubtably obese folk with issues they genuinely can't help, but it's hard to imagine that laziness and denial doesn't also play a part with many others

So if the warnings are right, maybe it really is everyone's business after all?

BlueSapp · 11/10/2017 12:51

Yes average being 5'4, so the OP is 5'8 therefore taller than and average woman in the UK, now do I need to explain what average means?

JonSnowsWife The others in your DDs year will probably not grow much more, witha few exceptions, humans grow at an average rate, therrfore not all at the same increments, so while some people will take grow spurts others will not which accounts for the massive variation in size in any given class room.

Getoffthetableplease · 11/10/2017 12:52

I've been that size, and then half it, now way up higher than ever. You can't kid a kidder here either, but the comment was just unnecessarily flipping rude Angry

BlueSapp · 11/10/2017 12:52

5'8 is above average.

BlueSapp · 11/10/2017 12:55

5'8'' is above the average height in the UK for women.

Anatidae · 11/10/2017 12:56

Whether it’s overweight or not isn’t the point.

The point is that ‘huge’ is an unpleasant word to use about a person. There are many other words you can use-

Tall girl, red hair
Barb, always wears those great sweaters.
Paula, Scottish
Gina, fabulous specs
Annie, you know her, very tall
Sarah, blonde hair, green eyes

Etc etc.

To use a word which reduces someone to their size alone is unpleasant, regardless of what that size is. If you need to describe someone to someone else you need to pick something that’s descriptive and either neutral or positive. Or you’re a dickhead. You know her, shortish, always rude?

Ollivander84 · 11/10/2017 12:57

I get it's tall but the comments on height get a bit... irritating after a bit
"God you're tall!"
Really? I had no idea Hmm
It's like people expect you to suddenly shrink yourself

Hippadippadation · 11/10/2017 12:59

Anatidae has posted exactly what I was going to. Even if the colleague thought you were huge, she could have just said "the one in the red cardi" or similar. In fact, that narrows it down much more than "huge"!

YouOKHun · 11/10/2017 13:01

I am a size 10 but I have a fucking great scar across my face due to a childhood altercation with a pain of glass. My weight or size is not my distinguishing feature but I am often identified as ‘you know, the one with the big scar’. I can interpret this two ways; as a value judgement (ugly) or as simply an identifying feature; I choose the latter and ignore the occasional jibe from a passing Transit van. There’s a saying ‘what other people think of you is none of your business’ I keep this in mind!. Irritating but let it go and also the comments here correcting your more positive perception of yourself using the lousy measure of dress size.

cakecakecheese · 11/10/2017 13:01

I'm 5ft8 and was a size 16, I lost some weight and I'm now a 12. My friend was looking at an old picture of us when I was a size 16 and said I looked 'massive' then. It hurt because although I'm at a healthy weight now it's a bit upsetting to think that's how people used to think of me.

ShellyBoobs · 11/10/2017 13:02

Surely part of the issue is that everyone has become so used to seeing very overweight people that we don't automatically think about the fact that the 'average' size of people is now too big.

The pic posted earlier of the 5'4" size 18 lady is a good example.

The chances are her weight will classify her as clinically obese, or even morbidly obese, but we are so used to seeing people her size that we don't think of it as the health issue it really is.

ThePeanutGallery · 11/10/2017 13:02

*That said, it's hard to ignore medics' constant warnings that the obesity crisis is bringing the NHS to its knees. There are undoubtably obese folk with issues they genuinely can't help, but it's hard to imagine that laziness and denial doesn't also play a part with many others

So if the warnings are right, maybe it really is everyone's business after all?*

Diseases associated with aging are the biggest drain on the NHS, not obesity.

Also, how is talking rudely about someone behind their back solving the obesity crisis?

Yazoop · 11/10/2017 13:06

@shelly I guess the key question is it any of our business if she's obese or not?

StigmaStyle · 11/10/2017 13:07

It never ceases to amaze me however, the number of people who say to me "but you're so slim". I am not slim, I am overweight.

Re this, I think some bodies are denser than others. I get this too. I'm several pounds overweight according to BMI but even the doctor called me tall and slim (for a relevant reason, not making personal remarks!). I have a large frame, big hands and feet, muscular legs. Some BMI calculators include details like wrist size, and with them I end up not overweight (just).

So when someone says they're x height and x weight, I still think that can encompass a lot of variety in how they look.

Whatever though, you don't call people "huge", it's rude!

Anatidae · 11/10/2017 13:07

It doesn’t matter if she’s a size zero or so big she has her own gravitational field.

What’s rude is reducing someone to a size/attractiveness level in what’s supposed to be a neutral description situation.

RUde:

Joe - huge cock
Bob - ugly
Sarah - fat
Jill - fabulous arse

Not rude -

Joe- welsh, dark hair
Bob - works over in finance, sit still by the window
Sarah - fab horn rimmed specs, wears her hair up
Jill - blonde, cactus on desk.

The OPs size/health status is her own business. It’s rude to call someone huge. It’s not hard as a concept, surely?

Mittens1969 · 11/10/2017 13:10

I have been that size in the past and yes, I was obese, and yes, I needed to lose weight, which I have now. (I’m size 12 and slightly overweight BMI, but I’ll hopefully put that right.) So what you might rightfully think is fair enough. But using the word ‘huge’ to describe someone is rude and unkind. You’re not trying to help them see the error of their ways, you’re just being horrible.

ShellyBoobs · 11/10/2017 13:11

Yazoop - I don't disagree.

My point was that the picture was posted seemingly to point out how the lady didn't look huge at size 18, whereas we've possibly had our judgement clouded by the fact that on average people are getting bigger.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/10/2017 13:13

Diseases associated with aging are the biggest drain on the NHS, not obesity

The biggest, yes, but clearly not the only one. Let's also not forget that ageing is unavoidable, whereas obesity in many cases (though certainly not all) isn't

As I said, I don't like to think of folk being rude either, but when there's so much denial, and when even the mildest remark is instantly slammed as "fat shaming" it's hard to know what the answer is Sad

YouOKHun · 11/10/2017 13:16

shellyboobs that may be your problem but I don’t see any evidence of a sort of collective cognitive dissonance. I’ve never met anyone ‘outside normal weight’ who isn’t well aware of their size. Nobody needs others’ judgement dressed up as ‘concern’. As peanut says, being rude to someone or bleating on about the NHS doesn’t solve anything, it just makes some people feel superior.

JonSnowsWife · 11/10/2017 13:16

The obesity crisis is not the reason the NHS is on it's knees. Funding issues, along with being understaffed and overworked are the reason they are falling on its knees.

That said, it's hard to ignore medics' constant warnings that the obesity crisis is bringing the NHS to its knees. There are undoubtably obese folk with issues they genuinely can't help, but it's hard to imagine that laziness and denial doesn't also play a part with many others

Where do you draw the line? What about those in hospital with illnesses ans conditions caused by smoking, or those who are in hospital with conditions caused by an alcohol addiction? Surely some of those are just lazy and in denial too? Are they to blame for the NHS being on its knees too or are alcoholics and nicotine addicts not as lazy as fat people?

I dont see all the deleted posters with so much vitriol against fat people being as equally condemning against smokers and alcoholics.

StigmaStyle · 11/10/2017 13:16

Anatidae but does it mean that Joe has a huge cock, or is a huge cock? :o

ThePeanutGallery · 11/10/2017 13:19

when even the mildest remark is instantly slammed as "fat shaming" it's hard to know what the answer is sad

Don't fucking fat shame. That's the answer. It doesn't help the person or the obesity crisis. So don't do it. Don't comment on others weight, don't make rude comments about people's appearance, don't concern troll.

It's really not that hard.