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Harvey Weinstein

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caperberries · 06/10/2017 09:17

Rumours have been circulating about this disgusting man and his sleazy casting couch for years... He has offered a half-hearted apology, but seems rather smug about the fact that his family are supporting him.

AIBU to think his wife is misguided? What sort of example is she setting to her daughter? After all, this isn't a one-off - it is a pattern of serious abuse of women over decades.

www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/harvey-weinstein-harassment-allegations.html

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squoosh · 10/10/2017 10:50

Casey Affleck is a foul creature.

MargaretTwatyer · 10/10/2017 10:51

Casey Affleck is rumoured to be much the same as Weinstein. Bet he's bricking it.

Getout21 · 10/10/2017 10:52

And Casey still got his Oscar!

DrSketchys · 10/10/2017 11:04

Of course they all knew about it. This has been going on since the days of Bette Davis, nothing is new. There's one particular director who has disgusting casting parties (young men)and the things that have happened there are common knowledge too. He's a massive director and seriously protected. I have a friend who is a PA for a Hollywood couple in LA and the stuff she tells me gives me shivers. Sad
As for the Coreys- if you believe the rumour mill the scumbag that is CS started all the abuse- shame on him, Shame on them all.

Couldn't agree more with those criticising the Hollywood stars now rounding on HW when he's been sacked. There must be quite a few actors who are terrified that their careers will be ruined and they won't speak out against him and not for the reasons you would think.

squoosh · 10/10/2017 11:05

He certainly did although I seem to remember Brie Larson who was the one to present the award refused to applaud him.

squoosh · 10/10/2017 11:08

I was Corey Haim obsessed for a couple of years when I was a young teen. I remember feeling so sad when I heard about what his life had become and his subsequent death. Then reading a couple of years ago about how he and Corey Feldman were abused as young children in Hollywood it all seemed to make sense.

MargaretTwatyer · 10/10/2017 11:10

Yes Corey Haim. Cough. Charlie Sheen.

squoosh · 10/10/2017 11:12

Yes I read that particular rumour Margaret.

Hollywood is a cesspit isn't it?

Dapplegrey2 · 10/10/2017 11:14

Out of interest, what would you expect people to do on hearing these rumours?
That is a good point and one to which I don't know the answer.

DrSketchys · 10/10/2017 11:16

Donna Karan

Don't wear a sexy dress or you're asking for it

But do buy my Atelier Karan dresses.....

Harvey Weinstein
MargaretTwatyer · 10/10/2017 11:17

Https:m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59d955fce4b046f5ad98aab2/amp

Women's rights lawyer representing Weinstein intended to discredit victims.

MargaretTwatyer · 10/10/2017 11:19

Out of interest, what would you expect people to do on hearing these rumours?

Privately offer support to the victims? Try and help them recover the careers he destroyed? Don't praise them to high heaven in public? Don't work for them?

cowgirlsareforever · 10/10/2017 11:19

Her hypocrisy is breathtaking DrSketchys.

DarthMaiden · 10/10/2017 11:23

I’m not entirely comfortable with the backlash against prominent actresses for not speaking out sooner.

Firstly, it’s not their job to “police” moral standards in the industry.

Equally, I think it’s naive to assume that any of them individually (or even collectively) had the power to stand against such a powerful industry figure without proof of the allegations.

HW had his lawyers silence many of his victims. Yes the rumours were rife, but calling him out publicly would have likely resulted in a lawsuit and a career nosedive.

If I were to point the finger anywhere, it would be at the other executives and board members at Miramax and latterly The Weinstein Company, who must have unequivocally been aware of the situation through the sign off of numerous settlements and gagging clauses not just by actresses but many former employees.

They had possession of the facts (not rumours) yet continually supported the ongoing employment of HW and presumably accepted these “payoffs” as part of the package - leaving HW virtually untouchable and in a position of power to repeatedly re-offend.

It’s only now, following the NYT article that they have finally pushed HW under the bus - when it’s was clear the situation could no longer be contained by hush money and legal action.

These people are so much worse than people who suspected but stayed silent. They enabled this man to continue his abuse and created a culture where HW knew he would get away with it due to their protection.

These people are where we should look to point the finger, rather than being aghast at actresses who were in many ways as trapped by the misogyny and power of these production company’s and high profile Hollywood players as the victims of HW abuse.

DrSketchys · 10/10/2017 11:26

As ever brilliant post Darth.

ThePeanutGallery · 10/10/2017 11:28

Great post Darth.

just5morepeas · 10/10/2017 11:29

Lets blame the bloke who did the wrong thing rather than the wife can we?

We have no idea what sort of person she is in private or what their relationship is like behind closed doors.

over40andpregnant · 10/10/2017 11:33

Rumour is it’s all come it now as his brother wanted control of the company so leaked it all

KERALA1 · 10/10/2017 11:34

Great post Darth.

I am boycotting Casey Affleck films (yes bet he really cares but still) after reading this article in the Independent - excerpt below which led me to actually really hate him I will not pay to see his beardy gurning smug face:

"The brother of Hollywood megastar Ben faced two sexual harassment suits in 2010. Producer Amanda White and cinematographer Magdalena Gorka sued for $2m and $2.25m respectively. over alleged offences during the filming of the faux-documentary I'm Still Here, starring Joaquin Phoenix

In the original allegations, Ms White alleged that Affleck referred to women as "cows", groped her when she rejected his sexual advances and instructed a camera operator to flash his genitals at her on several occasions. Ms Gorka claimed she was confronted with a "near daily barrage of sexual comments, innuendo and unwelcome advances" from fellow crew members who were encouraged by Affleck."

BananasAreGood · 10/10/2017 11:39

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Riversleep · 10/10/2017 11:39

Great post Darth. You are absolutely right. I didn't even think of that angle. Of course he was being protected by his brother and other board members. The Times are suggesting it was Bob Weinstein who might have leaked the story, waiting until their mother died last year.

MargaretTwatyer · 10/10/2017 11:48

Bollocks Darth. There are plenty of courses of action between publicly outing him. As someone said above an actress refused to applaud. They could have refused to work with him but they didn't because they valued money, success and fame more highly than their integrity.

Don't forget most of these people trade on their supposed integrity and moral stances to lecture the rest of us when it suits them.

Of course it is ultimately his fault. Of course a large portion of blame lies with Miramix executives. But just like Jimmy Saville it couldn't have happened without an industry of people prepared to turn a blind eye as long as it suited their own interests.

How long would Miramax have turned a blind eye if the biggest stars, writers and directors had refused to work with Weinstein? How long would investors have stomached it?

And this is not the first time, they all suck up to Allen, Polanski, Clinton. Yet suddenly when it's politically expedient or promotes their image/films they will come over all pious about women's rights.

MargaretTwatyer · 10/10/2017 11:50

Bob Weinstein probably leaked the story because when all the rumours were surfacing Weinstein probably paid people to go online and deflect it from him and blame it on his brother. Go back and look at all the blind item stories and you can still see that happening.

Getout21 · 10/10/2017 11:54

Of course it is ultimately his fault. Of course a large portion of blame lies with Miramix executives. But just like Jimmy Saville it couldn't have happened without an industry of people prepared to turn a blind eye as long as it suited their own interests.

I agree with this.

Bornfreebutinbiscuits · 10/10/2017 11:58

Look at Tippi Hendrin and Alfred Hitchock he destroyed her career.

He held her in contract for years not allowing her to act for him or elsewhere, he said he would destroy her career and he did.