Harvey Weinstein

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Rumours have been circulating about this disgusting man and his sleazy casting couch for years... He has offered a half-hearted apology, but seems rather smug about the fact that his family are supporting him.

AIBU to think his wife is misguided? What sort of example is she setting to her daughter? After all, this isn't a one-off - it is a pattern of serious abuse of women over decades.

www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/harvey-weinstein-harassment-allegations.html

My 20yr old DD will not date English boys.

Wow. So what nationalities will she date?

Sorry, happy to admit I'm very wrong - wiki says she left the band in 2005, so the same year Don't Cha came out. I don't remember her at all but would recognise all the others. Carmit was the redhead who left in the run up to their break up.

I believe these women - the latest is Eva Green - but I don't believe that they all managed to push him away when he confronted them in a hotel room with open bathrobe and a semi.

However, I understand why they don't want to talk about everything that happened.

Dapple I wouldn't as a younger woman either....date English boys I mean. And I never have since then either.

Actually slice I believe your DD on her experience. The millennial men do not see women being their equal. It's incredibly sad. I've had young men say crap to me like ask my age, make 'jokes' about me being a mother who likes to play dress up and such like. I wouldn't date a single one of them. Sadly most of the men I've met like that are English. I've had English men actually say to me 'Well my wife is caring for our children. That's her job.' So what, I can't have a job and parent?

If you were paid off as a result of an incident, does that mean you can't legally speak out?

This thread is heartbreaking

I am very early on in my recovery from two sexual assaults last year, both rape.
I’ve just reported it anonymously to the police via a sexual assault referral centre.
The women there were amazing, kind and supportive.

I have no idea what the future holds for me relationship wise, I don’t know what a normal one looks like.
I feel like I need to start again.

I’m professional and intelligent, this abuse does not discriminate, we can all suffer
But really in 2017 I don’t think we should be,

believe these women - the latest is Eva Green - but I don't believe that they all managed to push him away when he confronted them in a hotel room with open bathrobe and a semi.

I agree. I think there will also be women who said yes because they didn’t want to lose everything but don’t want to admit it as they won’t be seen as victims but as “sleeping their way to the top”.

Mozzchops I'm so sorry. That was very brave reporting it. Very very brave. You definitely did the right thing.

With regards to starting over, just be kind to yourself, don't place any pressure on yourself to be with anyone. Things will fall into place when you're ready. I would do a lot of self-reflection, counselling and doing things to improve your confidence and give yourself that sense of power again. Whatever you want basically. It's a journey of healing.

Take care of yourself

I would think paying money to buy silence over criminal behaviour could be seen as paying a bribe. I doubt he paid out over requests for massages, so it seems more likely it would have been for assaults.

I've seen people saying elsewhere "women should expect that he would expect sex if they go to his hotel room." Aside from very obviously that women should not expect non-consensual sex, assaults, chasing, flashing, etc anywhere (why is this not clear?), it's also not like he just had a bed in a room. They would have known he had a suite of rooms, including a living room where he would have conducted business at times. But basically, no, no-one should expect to be harassed by a creepy perv anywhere.

I'd guess that any form of coercion, which would include 'soft' coercion where the person receives money or some other benefit for submitting to a crime, would not be a bar to criminal proceedings.

More worrying is the US liking for statutes of limitation. A lot is being said about the negative aspects of various investigations into historical sex crimes in the UK - Edward Heath, most recently - but though I recognise the innocent can be slurred, I don't believe we should brush things under the carpet, particularly when people are alive and fit and well enough to be questioned and stand trial.

But any prosecution would have to be in the public interest and have a reasonable chance of conviction. And in the case of crimes against the person, such as a sexual assault, the prosecution would have to have the alleged victim on board because otherwise it's not going to work and it would be inhuman to force them to unwillingly endure a trial.

women should expect that he would expect sex if they go to his hotel room.

not to mention that if someone is on location etc for a couple days it's likely they will have to meet an hotel room. You often see reporters doing interviews from celebrities hotel rooms.

Whats so depressing about all of this is that he will, more than likely, get away with it. Victor Salva (Jeepers Creepers director) is a convicted paedophile and he's still making films.

When you compare the number of women, children and men whose careers and lives have been ruined by predators abusing them to the number of predators whose careers have been ruined because they've abused, its easy to see why people don't speak out.

women should expect that he would expect sex if they go to his hotel room

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are merely spectacularly clueless as to how things work rather than being a goady fucker.

I am an arts and entertainment journalist. It is entirely normal to meet people in rooms, or rather suites, in the kind of luxury hotels where the women alleging wrong-doing against Harvey Weinstein say it happened.

In Los Angeles they like to start work early, much earlier than London, so it's perfectly normal to have a 7am breakfast meeting in a hotel suite - suite being the operative word, it's not a bedroom, it's a suite of rooms.

If I was confronted by a man in a bathrobe I'd smell a rat. If the assistants left I would too. But that's now. I'll never see 22 or 30 again and would most likely have stayed in that situation at that age for lots of reasons - mostly because I wouldn't want to offend someone by implying he was a sex offender. Girls are brought up to be nice, aren't we?

So I can completely see how this could happen and anyone who says they can't is obtuse or a GF

I'm very sorry lizzieoak I misunderstood you and another poster there. I agree with you both. It's just that I've been reading stuff from people saying that these women knew what they were doing and went on the attack.

Roman Polanski and bill Crosby are still members of the academy
WTAF does that say. Fine don't get rid until they've been tried and found guilty (oh yeah Polanski was)
But at least suspend them

This needs drastic measures, I don't give a flying fuck if you're a fucking genius. There has to be a message sent by the elite institutions that they will not tolerate this.

Same as the House of Lords or anything like that. You're fucking out

You are a rapist sexual predator
You will never receive an award
You are a rapist sexual predator you will never serve on a board or a committee or anything like it
We need to get tougher

Thanks for the apology.

Of course no woman should ever expect an assault anywhere. But it also annoyed me that people were writing as if HW had twirled an imaginary moustache while inviting women up to his bedroom. As you say (& I said) he'd have a large suite where he would do legitimate business (not solely woman harassing). The rich are not like you and me, they have stonking big hotel suites.

The Oscar's Committee have voted to expel HW.

Oops, forgot the link: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41623637

Good. That’s something at least

Why not Polanski

Why not Polanski indeed? And Cosby if he's in it as someone below says.

Exactly
Ffs

I don't think there is a statue of limitations for sexual assault here in the US. Sexual assault includes rape.