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Harvey Weinstein

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caperberries · 06/10/2017 09:17

Rumours have been circulating about this disgusting man and his sleazy casting couch for years... He has offered a half-hearted apology, but seems rather smug about the fact that his family are supporting him.

AIBU to think his wife is misguided? What sort of example is she setting to her daughter? After all, this isn't a one-off - it is a pattern of serious abuse of women over decades.

www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/harvey-weinstein-harassment-allegations.html

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Want2bSupermum · 10/10/2017 22:43

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DarthMaiden · 10/10/2017 22:49

@Want2bSupermum

That’s a damn nasty comment

CoolCarrie · 10/10/2017 22:55

Gynnie's mum is a Hollywood actress and her dad was a Hollywood film producer, didn't they hear rumours?

Getout21 · 10/10/2017 22:55

I can't find one photo of Angelina & Harvey so she clearly kept her distance since her encounter, which I really respect her for.

Riversleep · 10/10/2017 23:14

I presume Affleck is sick enough about women being abused to give his brother a piece of his mind, no?

User999999 · 10/10/2017 23:21

I have a question for everyone saying people who knew should have done something.

I am not an actress and I do not have a glamorous job.

Almost 2 years ago I was violently anally raped at a Christmas party hosted by an agency my company works with. A few days later after I confided in the agency friend/colleague who had invited me to the party, he told me he was worried that something happened because the man involved "had a reputation" and had a nickname in their office (part of which involved the word 'rape') They had removed one of their young female account execs from the account due to his behaviour with her and everyone who knew him knew he turned into a monster when he drank. And yet no one, at any point in the evening, warned me, took me aside or pulled me away from conversation with him. I fully believe that those people are complicit in my rape. They knew there was a chance I was at risk and they did nothing. If you had a cup of water and a cup of acid in front of you and someone knew which was which wouldn't you want someone to tell you before you picked the cup up? But why do people not follow through on this?

DarthMaiden · 10/10/2017 23:21

Indeed @Riversleep

GorgeousLadyOfWrangling · 10/10/2017 23:30

Yes they were complicit userand I am so so sorry that happened to you Flowers

Riversleep · 10/10/2017 23:32

That's horrific user. Of course they should have done something. They should have dealt with him instead of gossiping and moving other people around him. Executives at the Weinstein Company who facilitated his behaviour are also to blame.

Getout21 · 10/10/2017 23:35

How awful user. Yes they should of warned you, I would like to believe I would.

Want2bSupermum · 10/10/2017 23:41

That is horrific that no one stepped in to support you. Lesser things have happened at where I work with customers/vendors and the CEO puts them on the banned list. Have you reported the rape? It's not about you necessarily being the one to take him to court but about speaking up so it's on record should someone else speak up and be told there are no other cases. Rape is notorious for being hard to secure convictions and the more women who report offenders the better.

DarthMaiden · 10/10/2017 23:44

@User999999

I’m so very sorry to hear about your experience.

I can fully understand why you feel you should have warned about this predator. I agree that you should have been.

I’ve been vocal on this thread expressing my concern about the focus being turned on people who didn’t speak up so I feel I should answer your question.

To be clear I’m not condoning those who have remained silent. However, I think there is a big “gap” between who remained silent publicly and took action privately and those who knowingly enabled and covered up his abuse.

In the HW case there were many people threatened and intimidated into silence. We may perceive these women (and men) as “powerful” but in the context of the industry they are not. They are trapped in the same obnoxious, cesspit of that represents the entertainment industry.

Frankly your friend should absolutely have warned you about this person. What’s worse is that someone nickname “RapeyBob” or whatever his moniker should be employable at all. He should never have been at that event. His bosses - like the MiraMax/Weinstein board - should have kicked this abuser into touch years ago and reported him to the police.

Want2bSupermum · 10/10/2017 23:45

darth Yes it is damn nasty what happened. I would also hazard a guess Winona Ryder stood up for herself hence why her career came to an abrupt halt.

DeleteOrDecay · 11/10/2017 00:18

Just heard a leaked video recording on Twitter of HW admitting to sexually harassing Amber Gutierrez and trying to persuade her, from what I understand to go into his hotel room with him. Really chilling to listen to. Apologies if this has already been mentioned.

User999999 · 11/10/2017 00:19

Want to be - Yes I reported it, tbh I didn’t want to, but was pushed to by my employer & gp.**

Police were so awful.* I had to remind them several times that I was the victim & then they dropped the case saying it was too he said / she said.* (Despite medical report / photos of bruises/ torn garments).

His employment came to an end because of it though, and at least everything is on file for when he does it again

Darth I agree with you & your previous posts.* I think there’s a big difference between hearing a rumour and facilitating action. Yes it’s Hollywood so the stakes are higher but I think the people who did nothing about HW did it for exactly the same reasons that people in that room with me: because they didn’t want to rock the boat, they didn’t want it coming back on them or putting their job at risk, or because they didn’t think this was the case “this time” (yeah RapeyBob shouldn’t have touched her but he must’ve changed his ways because we haven’t seen him rape anyone* else)

I don’t think we need to be crucifying women who’d heard rumours, probably avoided him, and aren’t standing up now.* Let’s not do anything that distracts from what an evil prick this man is & hopefully now some of his victims can get some justice.*

User999999 · 11/10/2017 00:20

Sorry about formatting! Damn app!

Andylion · 11/10/2017 00:33

His wife has just announced that she’s leaving him.

Andylion · 11/10/2017 00:35

people.com/movies/harvey-weinstein-wife-georgina-chapman-separating/
People magazine.

DarthMaiden · 11/10/2017 01:00

@User999999

Thank you for such a frank post.

I’m in utter admiration of women like you who report such appalling crimes and sad/angry/enraged that we live in a society still where there are women who don’t report, unsure they will be supported/believed or who are coerced into silence. Flowers

Cantspell2 · 11/10/2017 01:08

It appears clear that it was a well known fact that Weinstein is an abuser yet he not only big in Hollywood cycles but was a contributor to the democrate party hosting fundraisers at his personal homes for both Obama and Hillary Clinton. Michelle Obama went so far as to call him a wonderful human being, good friend and powerhouse and their daughter Malia was given an internship with Weinstein company.
WHy worry about whether his wife knew or will stay with him when major political figures are hiding their heads in the sand.

Arealhumanbeing · 11/10/2017 01:18

Sarah Vine (DM website) has already waded in to blame women for not speaking up.

I would understand it if she was genuinely stupid. It’s the knowing, fake wide eyed, deliberately obtuse tone which rankles.

CaptainWarbeck · 11/10/2017 01:54

I'm surprised at Michelle Obama's previous endorsement of HW given her work around girls and women. But then her daughter interned with him so I wonder if she actually knew anything. Surely someone would have warned her? Or did people just assume that Malia would be immune?

Re consent. Excluding the cases of forced sex which seem clear cut. If someone is suggesting sex and there is an unspoken (or spoken) insinuation that you will get a career boost from doing it, it is coerced sex. Coercion is not full consent.

The only way I can imagine 'sleeping your way to the top' not involving coercion is if a producer slept with an aspiring actress without either of them knowing who the other one was, and then the producer selecting her for a role after finding out she wanted to be an actress. Which is so unlikely it's laughable.

ThePeanutGallery · 11/10/2017 06:00

Wow. Bit of victim blaming in regards to Gwenyth Paltrow here. How many women are assaulted by their bosses, or coerced into sex and then go on to keep working for them? Whether out of fear or intimidation or because they think "fuck it, I didn't go through that for nothing."

While GP's parents are moderately famous, she didn't and still doesn't have the clout (or the grit) that Angelina Jolie has, and could just walk away. If she refused to work for Miramax or the Weinstein Company at her age she would have been labelled "difficult to work with" and blacklisted throughout Hollywood. I think people forget just how replaceable pretty young actresses are.

I think it must be hard for her and Jolie to come out now, the same as it is any victim, and that shouldn't be tossed aside just because they're "big stars" (Sorry but GP hasn't had a real film career since Shakespeare in Love, so maybe Brad Pitt's warning did black ball her somewhat).

DottyBlue2 · 11/10/2017 06:53

And there was I thinking that it was the shop lifting affair which halted Winona's career. You learn something new everyday.

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