To hate the laughing at "lower class" people on here?

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I know it gets disguised as laughing at certain children's names, phrases, etc, but there is a lot of threads on MN that is really about laughing at poorer people. Hate it.

PMSL! At some of the posts on here

'I am most definitely a teacher.'

'I am most definitely a lawyer.'

Well I am a brain surgeon to the stars on £400K a month. And I have a £5 million pound mansion in Cheshire. (All paid for!)

Oh, AND a degree from Cambridge, in astro physics. AND me and my hubster spent £300K on our wedding that we had St Paul's Catherdral.

I am on sick at the moment though, and also on maternity leave.

Do you all believe me????

I think you know where this is going................

I have to say though, I do find you all very entertaining. I am actually convinced that people make stuff up on here, and convince themselves so much that it's true, that they actually believe it themselves.

Keep going ladies. It's comedy gold.

Seems to me pretty much everyone is a target on here at one time or another. The better off are often 'posh', 'stuck up', Tory voters are pretty much the owest of the low, and MILs are evil witches. That's just scratching the surface.

I'm currently disgusted with the way 'Families of Benefits' are being portrayed on Eastenders. A lot of people have to claim for reasons beyond their control but it doesn't make them rough. The worst part though, is how every other character on Albert Square totally ignores the 'Benefit Family' and refuse to give them a job etc. They even had one scene where some characters were discussing them, and blatantly segregating them. Disgraceful from the BBC

Taratill - I’m a solicitor too, or at least the colleagues sitting around me seem to think so as they keep sending me documents to sign off on and asking legal type questions. They’re going to be bitterly disapponted if I tell them it’s all in my imagination. [bangskeyboardandtriestolookknowledgeable]

Today 14:25 KERALA1

God if I were sad/weird enough to lie about my profession on an anonymous forum I would certainly say I was something more interesting than a solicitor its hardly a rare or exciting job grin.

Depends which area you specialise in. I think you are envious...

It is sadly not uncommon for a poster suggesting a Polish name for her baby of Polish heritage to be told to either Anglicise the name or choose an English name because they are living in the UK.

This has been going on a long time in RL. Some people Asian committed do choose an English name for their children. It’s seen as a smart choice sadly, because in business English names can have more success. Things are getting better though ...

Keep going ladies. It's comedy gold

You have a very very big chip on your shoulder.

Taste has little to do with money or class. OP and others are basically saying that ''poor people'' as you so delightfully use that term OP, are thick and have bad taste in decor and names but should be left alone by all the rich meanies that dress in Boden and dare to have a cleaner. It works both ways.

Why would I make up that I am a solicitor that used to work in the City and now works for myself from home ? Thats the dull truth.

Forgot to add Tippz you are coming across as extremely odd and bitter.

YANBU. I've heard more about "class" in my 4 months in mumsnet than I have in my entire life.
Must be because I hang out with other embarrassingly crass low class folk who tattoo their kids name and on their shoulders 🙄😆

Envious? Of who? Sorry abit confused. Will leave you all to it...

Yes I agree with the laughing at/ looking down at lower class people. To be honest I think it makes people look pretty bad when they do it. There's nothing classy about it at all. And if/ when we hear. Of them people falling on hard times loosing a home/job/ relationship. Having to take on benefits or a low paid job. Your welcome to join us all in lower class world. How would you cope I wonder.

and many working class people I know want themselves and their children to thrive within it, rather than aspire 'upwards'
Oh yes to this!
Why do people assume the WC want to be MC?
And when you say you dont want to be MC they take it as an insult and/or lack of ambition.

I don't hate the MC but I am happy and proud to be WC. I have seen exactly where hating your class gets you. A life time of exhausting pretence and hypervigilance. No thanks.

This is where the term 'middle class values' is problematic. If you value education, good manners, enjoy history/literature etc you are beginning the transition to MC.

Utter rubbish!

@tippz glad you think my chemo is ‘comedy gold’ not sure I share that sentiment. Completely confused as to what your trying to achieve?

Do you need some vinegar to go with that chip?

I agree OP but this board in particular I think tends to be the worst for it, I've always assumed people don't post unless it's to sound off or prepared to be torn apart.
As for the class thing I have no idea what it even means to be working class or middle class now, I think pre Victorian era it probably had more meaning.

I'm from a working class family, what I understand it to be anyway. I know my grandparents were really poor and worked very hard all their lives in skilled but low income jobs to pay off their mortgages. I was really lucky to go to grammar school. Went to uni as mature student. I'm a nurse in management role, I'm the sole earner, 3 children, rent, eat tea in the evening, have GREY in my house, have no particular aversion to wicker hearts and a semi serious shoe addiction. Not sure what that makes me, but I'm happy so who cares :)

Ah but MrsDV if you don't ascribe different values to different classes how will you distinguish between them at all?

Being wedded to a class identity is as strange as judging people on the basis of their class imo but I'm the foreign hybrid of minor aristocracy and peasant farmers so what do I know.

God if I were sad/weird enough to lie about my profession on an anonymous forum I would certainly say I was something more interesting than a solicitor its hardly a rare or exciting job grin

Very much agree with this (I am a solicitor).

Tippz no you are comedy gold.

KERALA yes lack of colleagues to talk to draws me to Mumsnet too!

Bluegrass ha ha! Yes can you imagine!

Iwannabestressfree and

Best wishes for the chemo wannabe

I am most definitely a procrastinator who reads and posts on mumsnet when I'm avoiding a deadline in my fairly well-paid professional job even though I know I will have to catch up later. But that's ok because I don't usually have set hours (unlike when I was an admin and not in so much control of my own workflow). As for class wars, I don't think I'll ever understand, but having friends across the range makes me more aware of where my unconscious assumptions come from (and why I grit my teeth when the kids ask what's for tea).

I don't know what bubbles the (always inevitable in class threads) posters who "never notice class, it doesn't exist anymore" have wrapped themselves in. All I can think is they are wilfully obtuse or have somehow become completely isolated in a community full of people of the same class.

I am a mish-mash of classes. Parents have WC backgrounds, one well paid blue collar, the other in and out of employment on an estate. Brought up in lower MC circs myself, got singled out as posh by estate kids at the state school and poor by upper MC/UC kids at the private school. Kids know about class, adults just like to pretend they don't.

I eat breakfast, lunch and tea. We're broke as fuck and live in social housing, but one of my DC's names was brought up a couple of times on a thread about names that were too posh/try hard. . Sometimes I sound MC, sometimes I sound WC.

Don't be ridiculous, tippz. Comedy gold? What would be funny about some random lying about their job? I don't see the punchline. I do however see your mean spirited sneering at people's jobs. Is yours so horrid you lie about it? Even if it was horrid, what point would there be? I never had the idea to lie so can only conclude you assume this is the norm because you do it.

I think the academics on the academic topics are telling the truth about their jobs, the deadlines, working habits and jargon are difficult to fake. I couldn't spot a fake lawyer on here of course, but I think I'd spot a fake lecturer.

0hCrepe - and you really don't think there's a class element there? That you just happen to like the expensive and harder to access furniture you were brought up with and just happen to find the sort of cheap and available furniture someone on a income might decorate their home with to be tacky? No possible class element there at all?

tippz, what’s causing you to post the way you are? Why are you reacting so badly to the thought of educated, well paid or successful women on here?

You’re clearly very bitter about something. People on here don’t need to defend themselves against your sneering, they know who they are, and for many of us, mumsnet staff also know who we are.

For example I initially joined up with my work email address. A quick google by any member of staff with access will verify I am who I say I am , I do what I say I do, and they could probably make an educated guess that where I position my salary is also very accurate. I’m sure the same could be said for many of the other posters on here.

The only question in my mind would be what’s causing your reaction?