How would you feel if your 16 year old DS wanted to become a 'young conservative'

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That is all!
Opinions please.

People eventually have enough of being called names and other people trying to shout them down all the time

So when people don't like being disagreed with, a reasonable response is to vote for someone like Trump? Come off it. Being told I am part of the lunatic left (which apparently these days is a hotbed of prejudice and extreme violence) and that socialist policies only ever lead to chaos and that whatever I say I am wrong wrong wrong, does not make me think, hmmm, the best response to this is to vote for a fucking idiot.

Not directed to me but:

"So you feel that critical thinking is “bigoted wank”?

Do you not think that the ability to objectively analyse and evaluate issues in order to form a judgement is good thing?"

Clearly the point being made was that suggesting your child needed to be enrolled on a critical thinking course for not swallowing the Corbyn line is bigoted wank, not that critical thinking is bigoted wank. A critical reading course needed, perhaps?

socialist policies only ever lead to chaos they do tend to, to be fair.

If Corbyn gets in, your children will realise that their future relies on getting a nice State controlled job working for the greater good

Not true, obviously, but a nice thought!

would be extremely upset

How dare your DC not have the same view as you hey.

Sigh. Being extremely upset is not the same as anger that your child 'dares' have a different view.

There's some difficulty distinguishing between some quite basic emotional responses here, isn't there?

Being told I am part of the lunatic left (which apparently these days is a hotbed of prejudice and extreme violence)

And you don't think the same applies to people who are being told they are part of the lunatic right, just for voting Conservative (or, on this thread, just for not voting Labour)? If you dislike being branded x, y or z by association, why don't you think that also applies to people in the Conservative party? They're not all Jacob Rees Mogg or Boris or think Nazi jokes are funny. Just as not all Labour supporters are anti-Semitic misogynists.

Wow, two pages before the thread godwinned itself. Excellent nuanced political debate there.

Would still be disappointed in a child of mine that joined the YCs, and what's more whilst I'd still pay for stuff for them, I'd be cutting them off from any pocket money - not a penny I earned and passed onto them would be going to the tories.

I'm not even sure if I'd purchase the uniform red trousers and badly fitting blazer for them either

Intereresting that the name calling in this thread appears to be mostly coming from the right......

If Corbyn gets in

I would just be glad they were trying to make sense of the world and engaged in political thinking. None of my business really. Views change over time. At this time, anything is preferable to the fad of Momentum and mindless JC worship a la Glastonbury, but again, I wouldn't care if they jumped on that bandwagon either. As a teen it's cool to be disaffected (fortunately most of us grow up)!

I would be played they were taking an interest.
It's interesting to think about and talk about not what policies intend to do, but what they actually do and the consequences.

Cry....
But i would still love them (secretly hoping it was a phase)

"There's some difficulty distinguishing between some quite basic emotional responses here, isn't there?"
Never mind emotional responses- there seems to be some difficulty distinguishing between basic words!

Pleased.

There's some difficulty distinguishing between some quite basic emotional responses here, isn't there?

No.

HTH

I do hate autocorrect sometimes.
Pleased they were taking an interest not played.

For those saying socialist policies only ever lead to chaos, can you name 3 examples?

Labour did not cause the banking collapse.
But they did create council housing, the NHS and Health and Safety.

Interesting replies. Not my DS, I don't have one. It's a friend of my DD - I was just curious what MN would think.

Certain amount of brainwashing I believe - parents very staunch conservatives, he regularly trots out speal that is straight from their mouths.

Right so they share their parents views then. Would you say the same if the parents were Labour supporters I wonder.

As I was a lifelong Labour supporter until JC came along, I would personally be happy that my DC were engaged in political debate.

I don't understand this idea that I vote x so how dare my friends or family vote y.

Well no it doesn't help, Piglet - because it sounds from your post like you think that feeling upset is the same thing as thinking your children mustn't 'dare' have a different opinion from you.

Maybe I've read it wrongly, and you do know the difference?

Maybe having a child with a different political opinion can help the parents be more broad-minded?

I would have been pleased if my DS as a teenager had got involved with any democratic political party, regardless of my own politics.

Clearly the point being made was that suggesting your child needed to be enrolled on a critical thinking course for not swallowing the Corbyn line is bigoted wank, not that critical thinking is bigoted wank. A critical reading course needed, perhaps?

I’d suggest a critical thinking course for my 16 yr old DC for wanting to join any political party.

To be able to understand that what is being touted on social media, in Party manifestos, in the mainstream media etc is often miles away from the extremist interests driving many of the mainstream parties.

Perhaps if a bit more critical thinking had been applied in the case of a 70 year old proven racist with no political experience but with plenty of financial self-interest, Trump would not be where he is today.

I'd be chuffed to bits that we shared the same views. Unfortunately he's a libdem

I know conservatives who are passionate about the most vulnerable in society, including setting up charities

You honestly know multiple people who have set up multiple charities? All from one political persuasion?