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Hello Don, got a new tax cut? Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 29/09/2017 23:52

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Nice work if you can get it.

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PalmerViolets · 30/09/2017 18:57

A bigly place mark!

lionheart · 30/09/2017 18:57

Here's a bunch of people waiting for someone else to help them out.

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cozietoesie · 30/09/2017 19:02

Yes indeed, Lweji. (And don't forget the $$$$$.)

whatashower · 30/09/2017 19:04

I have kept up with these threads and read quite a lot of intelligent commentary on the man. I thought I could say something wise at some point but his Puerto Rico remark has enraged me so much all I can say - just to make me feel better tbh- is that the man is a total and utter cock. Yet again I am kicking stuff in anger and despair. Gaah.

lionheart · 30/09/2017 19:04

Another rendition of the picture posted by CaveMum.

Jason Kander‏Verified account @JasonKander 3h3 hours ago
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The Mayor of San Juan is wading through sewage, searching for people with a bullhorn while @realDonaldTrump insults her on twitter.

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lionheart · 30/09/2017 19:06

Hope it does make you feel better whatashower. It is also true.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/09/2017 19:27

Not to add to the rage but

JOE ARPAIO REVIVES BIRTHERISM, DEFENDS RECORD AS SHERIFF, TEASES RETURN TO POLITICS IN FRESNO

www.newsweek.com/sheriff-joe-arpaio-maricopa-fresno-county-republicans-trump-674876

TheHamptons · 30/09/2017 19:32

Each day brings fresh hell, doesn't it?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/09/2017 19:33

We all know what the root problem is

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 30/09/2017 19:39

Welcome whatashower! I feel the same way about Trump as I did about J Saville - utter rage when I think that he will just get away with it.

cozietoesie · 30/09/2017 19:45

That would present 45 with an interesting dilemma, Pain. (If Arpaio were to appear to want to challenge Flake. Wink)

cozietoesie · 30/09/2017 20:52

A Beast opinion piece.

Saturday morning tweetstorm

orlantina · 30/09/2017 21:02

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 7m7 minutes ago
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To the people of Puerto Rico:
Do not believe the #FakeNews!
#PRStrong🇵🇷

I am sure the people of Puerto Rico will believe what they see on the ground.

lionheart · 30/09/2017 21:04

NorthWest -- I know what you mean but I think he will be held to account.

Still going:

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 5m5 minutes ago

To the people of Puerto Rico:
Do not believe the #FakeNews!

My Administration, Governor @RicardoRossello, and many others are working together to help the people of Puerto Rico in every way...

......#FakeNews critics are working overtime, but we're getting great marks from the people that truly matter!

WtF

OhYouBadBadKitten · 30/09/2017 21:20

Surely the people who really matter are the ones who are dying.

cozietoesie · 30/09/2017 21:44

I hope there is no cholera outbreak.

Has the Guajataca dam failed yet?

cozietoesie · 30/09/2017 21:56

A Beast piece - borrowed from the NYT.

US in direct contact with North Korea

lionheart · 30/09/2017 22:09

Part of it has I think, cozie with evacuations of people downstream but the US army is also trying to stabilie the situation.

Unleike this graceless oaf:

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
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Results of recovery efforts will speak much louder than complaints by San Juan Mayor. Doing everything we can to help great people of PR!

orlantina · 30/09/2017 22:13

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I wonder if his words on Puerto Rico will come back to haunt him.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 30/09/2017 23:05

Donald Trump needs to go back to school and learn a few facts.
From NYT article...

Hurricane Maria devastated Puerto Rico. The island has no electricity, and may not for months to come. Much of the water is undrinkable. About 80 percent of crop value is gone, a loss of $780 million.

More than 3.4 million people live in Puerto Rico, yet the political and popular response to the catastrophe has been far more muted than the response to the devastation in Houston from Hurricane Harvey or that in Florida from Hurricane Irma. This may be because, according to a new poll, only a slim majority of Americans realize Puerto Ricans are Americans, too.

Here are answers to some questions you might have about Puerto Rico’s place in the United States.

Are Puerto Ricans American citizens?

Yes. Under Section 302 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, people born in Puerto Rico have the same birthright American citizenship as people born in the 50 states. (Puerto Ricans born from April 11, 1899, to Jan. 13, 1941, became citizens when the act was passed.)

Can they vote in national elections?

You might think so, given that they are citizens, but on the biggest stage, the answer is no. Puerto Rico has no representation in the Electoral College, so its people cannot vote in general presidential elections unless they establish residency in one of the 50 states. It does, however, have a say in presidential nominations: Last year, Marco Rubio won the Republican primary there, and Hillary Clinton won the Democratic primary.

What is Puerto Rico’s relationship to the United States, exactly?

Puerto Rico is a commonwealth of the United States. This is the same legal status held by the Northern Mariana Islands, and confers similar rights to those of unincorporated territories like Guam and the United States Virgin Islands.

What this means in practical terms is complicated. Most people in Puerto Rico don’t pay federal income taxes, but they do pay Social Security, Medicare, import, export and commodity taxes. Their federal tax bills add up to more than $3 billion a year.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 30/09/2017 23:27

FYI Donald, Puerto Ricons are not watching the "fake" news because they no longer have televisions, power, or homes, you fucking imbecile.

Heartbreaking (from Twitter):
twitter.com/nelsonmrosario/status/914219663369924608
My dad lives on the island. I shared the President's response with him this morning. He wanted me to share one anecdote in response.

1/For context, my dad is helping with rebuilding right now, and has friends in the govt, elected and appointed, on the island.
2/After I told him what the President said he went quiet and said "Wow." A second later he says "I'm gonna share one detail with you. One."
3/"There's a medical center down here, and everyone that was in the Intensive Care Unit, died. Everyone. That's just one detail."
4/He said that's what should be tweeted at the President @realDonaldTrump, so that's what I'm doing.
5/Disaster response is insanely difficult. I get that. My wife has worked in the field for almost ten years.
6/What I don't think is too much to ask is for the President to show a little compassion and grace.
7/Maybe that's me wanting everything to be done for me. All I know is I'm lucky my family is okay, and I can occasionally hear from my dad.
8/If you want to donate to PR, consider hispanicfederation.org/media/press_re… or unidosporpuertorico.com/en/

Saffronwblue · 01/10/2017 00:17

Speechless with rage. How can every day be a new low? Where is rock bottom?