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Hello Don, got a new tax cut? Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 29/09/2017 23:52

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3035639-Is-he-Right-Left-or-is-He-Nothing-at-All-Trump-thread-continued?pg=1

Nice work if you can get it.

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lionheart · 03/10/2017 08:06

Gloria Steinem.

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InigoTaran · 03/10/2017 09:00

John Oliver is on good form here, arguing with a gun nut about how gun laws don't work ( they did in Australia!)

m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLOKWcH1zBl2kfnCwyyZWk5MW28lgaNa7L&params=OAFIAVgB&v=9pOiOhxujsE&mode=NORMAL

lionheart · 03/10/2017 09:14

NRA and Putin.

www.thedailybeast.com/top-trump-ally-met-with-putins-deputy-in-moscow

lionheart · 03/10/2017 09:15

Thanks Inigo.

Just been listeing on R4 to a couple who were there at the shooting, defending the Second Amendment and the freedom it brings.

lionheart · 03/10/2017 09:19

This is truly appalling.

www.newsweek.com/guns-kids-third-leading-cause-death-627209

PerkingFaintly · 03/10/2017 09:22

Brew all round, before I get to grips with the day.

Gin also available.

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lionheart · 03/10/2017 09:28

It's quite early ... oh, all right then. Smile

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/10/2017 09:37
lionheart · 03/10/2017 09:42
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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/10/2017 10:01

It is really shocking that the third leading cause of children’s deaths in America is guns and that still nothing is being done about it. This is the same party blocking gun reform that allowed funding for CHIP to expire last week so 9 million children have no healthcare so I suppose it shouldn’t come as a surprise.

lionheart · 03/10/2017 10:08
lionheart · 03/10/2017 10:21

Pushing a boulder up a very steep hill together.

everytown.org/

momsdemandaction.org/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/10/2017 12:17

This was from yesterday

Far Right Watch
Far Right Watch @FarRightWatch
Genuine post from this afternoon. This was the source of the false #LasVegas rumour that the Right are still trying, vainly, to push.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/10/2017 12:31

The American College of Physicians issued a statement Monday labeling mass shootings a "serious public health issue" and calling for a ban on automatic and semiautomatic weapons in the wake of the mass shooting in Las Vegas.

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/353554-leading-doctors-group-mass-shootings-are-a-serious-public?amp

Lweji · 03/10/2017 12:58

GOP don't care about Medical organizations regarding health care, why would they pay any attention to them regarding weapons?
Sad

cozietoesie · 03/10/2017 13:04

They won’t. Sad

I expect to hear, hourly, of the NRA militating for every American’s right to own surface to air missiles to enable them to bring down prey with minimal inconvenience to themselves.

Lweji · 03/10/2017 13:05

It doesn't quite seem to work for NK and Iran, though, does it?

Apparently, they are not allowed nuclear weapons, but every American has the right to arm themselves as they please.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/10/2017 13:14

Doesn't the second amendment only concern the right of state militia to bear arms anyway? I'm sure I'm missing something but if that's the case, why do people keep citing it as proof that everyone has to be able to carry guns whenever they choose to?

lweji it's similar to Brexiteers being outraged that the EU hasn't stepped in to physically intervene in the Catalonia referendum. The Spanish government's actions were utterly abhorrent but it's a special type of twisted logic to hate the EU for not immediately stopping the Spanish government but also hate the EU because duh, sovereignty.

lionheart · 03/10/2017 13:16

It is a much debated point but I believe the Second Amendment means what you want it to mean.

Bit like the Bible. Grin

lionheart · 03/10/2017 13:42

The leader has spoken:

Mark Knoller‏Verified account
@markknoller

"What happened in Las Vegas is in many ways a miracle," said @POTUS, citing how quickly police got to gunman. Calls it "an amazing job."

cozietoesie · 03/10/2017 13:57

I don’t think he actually said that, lion?

Maryz · 03/10/2017 13:58

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