Insta mums

[Harrielady]

What the actual fuck?! I have just joined mumsnet and can say I will be leaving it after the negativity I've experienced. I joined expecting women helping women.
Women encouraging other women. Whether that's with their children, their marriage or their careers?! 'Insta mums' are mums who have decided a career in instagramming! And why the fuck not?! Before you ask no I am not an insta mum. Not that I wouldn't want to be - I just can't be bothered to tidy. But they do! They make their homes beautiful and enjoy decorating and showing their efforts off. Other women are inspired and they can bring many other women joy and happiness. Who are you bringing joy and happiness too? Going into the internet and plastering negative energy and bitter comments is not helpful, not nice and not at all fucking productive! You bitch about these women spending their days cleaning and shopping and not 'caring for thier kids' but how are you fucking idiots any better?!? Your too busy slagging off other hard working women to get your kicks. It's sad. Pathetic and downright bullying.
Something's that have been posted have hurt 'insta mums' and have caused upset - what have they actually done to you?? You are no better than the disgusting internet trolls who target celebrities or others who are slightly better looking or better off than yourselves. Get a grip.

I love MODs insta also many other instamums pages. If I don't like someone I choose to unfollow. It really is as simple as that.

Running I don't correct mistakes because companies can take or leave me how they want. If I make a mistake then that's that. I'm not going to delete anything because I've said use a code and get 3 months free when it's really 1 month free. I'll just do a separate story maybe later on and tell my followers I wasn't correct on that one.

And if followers don't like the ad, don't care. Don't follow them

@SandyInBourne are you the poster who had the thread deleted last year about the pregnant Elsa at one of your kids birthday parties?

It was bank holiday we were in Cornwall there was no gp available

There is an out of hours GP service available in Cornwall. Until last summer there was also a walk in centre. There are several MIUs and also pharmacies that will be open on a BH.

Cornwall is not exactly the end of the world, though I appreciate it can feel that way sometimes.

Just sayin'

I’m sure there was we were actually leaving Cornwal heading to Bristol, I had called 111 and was waiting for a doctor to call me back but I’d be told it could be 6 - 8 hours. Anyway the point I’m making is the decisions we make as parents are for us to decide and if we’re comfortable with what we post/do/say then that’s up to us to deal with. Not a parenting forum to dissect. There are many things I see on Instagram that I don’t agree with or like or think ‘I wouldn’t do that’ but I wouldn’t start a thread about it I’d either unfollow or move on. Parenting is the biggest thing that divides on a regular basis online and in real life.

Bit ironic that @anyalovesrose is being criticised so heavily for asking advice for something online by users of a discussion forum that is almost entirely based on that very concept.

I appreciate what people are saying about it maybe being potentially embarrassing for the child to later find out that their mum told the Internet that they had constipation but if I understand correctly it was an Instagram story and they disappear after 24 hours.

I like some insta mums and follow them, if I didn't like what they were doing I would unfollow. Life is too short.

The only time that I would ever be tempted to make a negative comment would be if I thought they were doing something genuinely dangerous, like when wellness bloggers tell people not to get vaccinations or not to trust their doctors because of the conspiracy toxins, because there are clearly implications for health there. If it was just that I disliked the content of the posts I would just unfollow.

I think it is a bit weird when people think they are entitled to point out to others when they don't like something they are doing - I wouldn't go up to someone in a supermarket queue and point out that I didn't like their shoes and that they should think about that the next time they are buying shoes. I am always amazed at the amount of times I see people making negative comments, sometimes about exactly that, on Instagram - do they honestly think anyone cares? or that it is even necessary?

Anyway the point I’m making is the decisions we make as parents are for us to decide and if we’re comfortable with what we post/do/say then that’s up to us to deal with

Look, it might feel like I'm having a go and singling you out but a lot of the Insta mums do it, including Mother Pukka and Susie Verill and all the rest of them. You just happen to be on this thread at this moment.

Do you really, really think that it's a good idea to be putting all this information about your family online? On the original thread, someone had worked out what your address was just from your IG posts. They knew when you were on holiday. They know the names of your kids and what they look like. Do you honestly think that to have that much info about yourselves floating about on the web is a good idea?

Obviously, as you've pointed out, at the end of the day it's ultimately your decision. But it goes against everything your children will getting taught at school about internet safety. And your children have no say in what you're posting about them.

(Also, if you don't want people to dissect your parenting skills online, maybe you should think twice the next time FOD tries to live blog his daughters' asthma attack. Just a thought).

Bit ironic that @anyalovesrose is being criticised so heavily for asking advice for something online by users of a discussion forum that is almost entirely based on that very concept

Not really. MN is anonymous. Can you not understand the difference? I could post ten paragraphs about something embarrassing my son has done but no-one (including the kids he goes to school with) will be any the wiser as to what he's done, who he is, where he lives or what he looks like.

@courtney Just because you don’t agree with what Instamums do and you wouldn’t do it, it doesn’t mean it’s right or wrong. It’s down to those parents. Since we’ve moved we’ve made a conscious decision to post less about our children, I hardly ever feature the older two, we have rules and we stick to them. We are a couple parenting and sharing some aspects online of course we don’t post everything. Security is a good discussion and we’ve taken on board some of these things. Now anything else you feel the need for me to clarify or can we all move on with our day?

Yet you still singled me out not Simon! Women bashing women it’s so predictable Simon gets 2% of the crap I get on here it’s almost laughable luckily he’s got a good sense of humour and moves on with his life

You're the one who brought it up again but ok.

I have a whole host of stuff I'd like to ask you but you'll just think I'm having a pop so I won't bother.

FWIW (and it probably won't mean much to you) I actually respect you for coming online and facing up to criticism but I think I'll probably leave it there and let someone else take the floor.

Yet you still singled me out not Simon! Women bashing women it’s so predictable

Don't pull that crap. FOD got just as much criticism, if not more, on the original thread. You just happen to be the one who's come onto MN at this moment. I'm sure if Simon wants to come on we can abuse him in equal measure

@CourtneyLoveIsMySpiritAnimal

Yes I can appreciate that in the most part Mumsnet posts are anonymous but I also see a lot of people requesting posts be deleted or worrying that information is potentially 'outing.'

I am not sure that information is actually as anonymous as users like to think it is - I think if you were so inclined you could easily put together a number of posts about a user and piece together quite a lot of information about their life.

I agree that posting a huge amount of information about your children online is problematic - for that reason I don't personally do it myself, nor would I be drawn to a career that would involve that. But that's my decision and it's one that I am happy with. Other people feel differently and do differently and that is up to them - they are the ones that will have to justify those reasons to their children later in life, not me. Internet safety is not a new subject to anyone, I imagine all the insta mums have weighed this up and come to a decision that they feel is right. We may not all agree with that decision but there you go.

OP “Instamums bring joy and happiness”.
Instagram is primarily a business advertising and promotional platform. People go on there to make money and advertise their services. People also pretend they are not doing this. There’s loads of fakery. Instagram “lives” are fake lives. Instagram Mums are no different from other Instagram promoters. Everyone has a right to point out fakery, self promotion and criticise businesses who are pretending they’re not businesses, or to make satire and fun of self proclaimed “blessed” and “perfect lives”. As long as people see Instagram for what it really is I have no problem with them. I think you OP have been drinking the kool aid with regard to Instagrammers. Young people aged 16-24 are the target market for most advertisers on Instagram as they are the least discerning and wasteful of money and most influences by ads. Hence the worst and most dishonest adverising practices can be found on Instagram. it is a Wild West of bollocks, con artists fakers and liars influencing young minds. Instagram mums do the same for weak minded mothers and others who never grew up or realised they were the product being advertised at, 24x7. Instagram users are often willing engagers and participants in their own brainwashing by corporates, with their constant scrolling and inbibing of material produced by shitehawks who are selling shite.

Unfortunately, if you open your entire private life/home and general existance up to Jo Public then people will comment. If the substance of posts is about parenting then people will comment on that too. Instagram etc is not invite only. The blocking function doesnt really work as a user can just access it via a search engine and still look at the content. It is wide open. I looked at FOD last night for the first time and the photo of him holding one of the children up against a sign (advert it seems) which states the town you live in gives me the absolute shivers. There are so many backdrops of the house it would presumably be so simple to go on rightmove and find the address. All it takes is one nutcase and comments about parenting would be the least of anyone's worries

I would really like if one of the instagrammers could actually address the perfect legitimate safety/privacy concerns instead of just sweeping it all away into the jealous bully folder. What would you say id your older children pointed out that all of this is contrary to internet safety advice at school? Tell them the teachers are envious haterz? This is crackers

Flouncing corner is that way ->

It’s lucrative isn’t it, instagram? More lucrative than, say, working for the NHS. But it’s definitely a bubble. And there are murky areas.

I'm new to IG, I don't really care who is getting paid to advertise what or getting sponsored to do xyz. I browse on IG for entertainment and looking at nice pictures, for me it is certainly not a point of reference for inspiration, joy, advice etc.

I do wish that people would stop this disingenuous "oooh I'm such a crap parent, pass me the gin, my baby is soooo obese and I'm a teetering alcho tee hee hee" whilst they are obviously doing a fine job, like most parents.

How lucrative is IG? What sort of money are we talking? Clemmie said she hardly does any ads, so where would the money be from?

Hardly any ads....hmmm

In the last month MoD and FoD have carried ads by Miele and Canon on their accounts - these guys aren’t paying them peanuts.

Oh, and Renault

So bigger companies rather than the small Instagram shops.... usually run by mothers

Who was the instamum who heavily hinted that they would love to be gifted a washing machine?

Yeah hardly any ads on instagram. The whole thing is an advert😂

Garmin, Barbour... to name a few more...

I strongly suspect FoD has picked up the #ad slack. But the issues raised in this thread apply to him too.