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To think a single man travelling to Thailand regularly is up to no good

505 replies

Katyazamo · 23/09/2017 16:35

My uncle (who I am not particularly close to) travels to Thailand alone several times a year. He is in his mid 50s and has lived with my grandad since divorcing his wife around 20 years ago.
It's suddenly occurred to me that he's probably up to no good :/
AIBU?

OP posts:
Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/09/2017 15:01

'Plentiful supply'?... of vulnerable people

Of course they're vulnerable, but surely the question is what can we do about it sex tourism from our end?

Such wretched men will hardly admit what they're going for if asked, and we really can't go steaming into someone else's country telling them how to run things - it's been tried before and doesn't tend to end well

So while hand wringing is all very well, how does anyone suggest we actually tackle this?

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 15:15

anyone, male or female, who is exploiting children or those much more vulnerable than them should have their sexuality controlled yes

This is 100%. Sorry to be a buzzkill frigid British woman and all that.

Although I wonder if got blames wives when their husbands rape their children? After all those fat old bitches should’ve tried harder to keep their man hey got?

* Sex with a prostitute is terrible but not rape. HTH.*

I could not disagree more. If you have to bargain with someone to get them to have sex with you, that is coercion, which is a form of rape. Sorry not sorry.

I assume you have no issue with anyone assuming your daughter's a slag if she wears a short skirt and flashes some cleavage

You do realise that you directed this question to a woman about her child? Calling a child a slag is not the same as assuming an adult has dubious morals based on the fact that they have a ‘girlfriend’ in a place notorious for sex trafficking/paedophilia/sex tourism

Some poster’s inability to form an analogy is shocking

araiwa · 24/09/2017 15:16

people cant even agree what to do about the sex industry in this country, let alone start trying to fix it in other countries.

many cant even agree what the problems actually are

WritingHome · 24/09/2017 15:16

We spent some time in Bangkok when dd was v small & saw some v seedy things - middle aged / elderly British men with girls young enough to look like children it really upset me. There was a bar/cafe right next to where we were staying & we saw a few of the same men there each night (noticeable by their clothes - v pressed chinos & buttoned up ironed shirts & v polished shoes!) with a different girl each time.

They were def there for sex..

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 15:17

* To the people who are mad on this thread. What are you going to do to stop men doing this? Probably nothing*

Personally I donate each month to a charity which helps victims of sex trafficking. And for those who don’t, lending a voice to the debate to try and stop sex tourism being normalised is helping, in small measures, but helping nonetheless

andpeggy29 · 24/09/2017 15:21

Unless he's fiddling kids, yabu. Leave him alone and be happy that he's found some happiness! If he wants to keep goin there for whatever reason, let him crack on with it

LucieLucie · 24/09/2017 15:26

* ...will just say though..... the people who do this and perpetuate this. They are 'normal' men..... not freaking psychopaths you'd recognise as such in the street. Husbands, friends and fathers. And it is ever so more common than you could imagine.*

🙌🏼 Amen to this.

So sad that many mnetters are showing their blissful ignorance on this thread. Its like if they refuse to believe it happens it doesn't happen.

It's men who do this, not monsters. Each one has a life at home with a mother/father/wife/girlfriend/mates/kids a job etc.

I'd love an investigative journalist to go out and expose some of them in a real life type documentary about sex tourism and paedophilia in these popular 'solo male tourist' countries.

Tealdeal747 · 24/09/2017 15:27

My friend had a colleague who regularly took long holidays to Thailand.

He's not been her colleague for a while having recently been on trial for having sex with a 12 year old in the U.K.

But of course that's just a coincidence.

LucieLucie · 24/09/2017 15:28

Urgh @andpeggy29 have you read the thread? Hmm

BoneyBackJefferson · 24/09/2017 15:30

Puzzledandpissedoff
I'm also intrigued by men who claim they're "going back to visit their Thai girlfriend". Whatever the rights and wrongs of this, do they seriously imagine the girls are sitting pining over their photos during their absence? They're no doubt quick enough to bank the money sent over by their smitten "fiance", but reports suggest they're straight back in the bars the instant their last one's on the flight home

when you look at the amount of people that send gifts, money and god knows what else to the current band of internet stars, It is quite easy to believe that there is a large group of gullible people that think that their "girlfriend/fiance" are pining for their absence

HerRoyalChocolateBunny · 24/09/2017 15:31

What can people here do about it?

Well- ther are quiteliterally hundreds of international development agenciesand international charities and international police agencies who are dealing with it.

What people can do in this ountry, and indeed- ahem-on thisthread can do is not laugh itoff, not dismiss it, not normalise it amd not think of it as being a natural component of poor ickle men expressing their natural sexuality.

It's wrong. Be vocal and loud about that. To the people you know who do 'stag dos' to the far east. To the people who think it's not cheating if it's just a blow job from some girl (or boy) in a bar on a beach. To people who think they experiencing 'local colour' by going to ladyboyz shows. To people who think that little girls are asking for it by wearing short skirts. to people who think it is somehow is okay because it is parent pimping out their own children,and to people who think that just watching it happen on the internet is somehow okay because it's not them who are actually doing it.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 15:34

Unless he's fiddling kids, yabu

Because we all know how honest ‘kiddy fiddlers’ Hmm are about their antics. Just ask him OP, he’ll tell the truth I’m sure!

The irony about all the posters frothing over the presumption that he uses prostitutes is that the OP’s uncle probably wouldn’t care less about what a bunch of women think he’s doing. It doesn’t stop him from being able to go over to Thailand.

ohherewegoagain · 24/09/2017 15:36

I would agree with you OP. Something doesn't sound right about that.

Painfulpain · 24/09/2017 15:38

Well, we can start by informing the authorities when we have suspicions, huh?

Like with other crimes

Itsgoodforthegarden · 24/09/2017 15:41

YANBU. It's creepy at best. Confused

sharksDen · 24/09/2017 16:27

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SerfTerf · 24/09/2017 16:29

I don't think anybody's done that shark Hmm

sharksDen · 24/09/2017 16:30

I must have misunderstood

"Oh gosh another invasion. You got here quick lads."

What did you mean?

SerfTerf · 24/09/2017 16:31

Ah so you're calling ME a cunt, based on your interpretation? Is that it?

sharksDen · 24/09/2017 16:33

No. Simply asked you what you meant which you don't seem to want to do.

SerfTerf · 24/09/2017 16:34

Nobody else seems to be having comprehension or problems or slinging the word "cunt" around. Confused

sharksDen · 24/09/2017 16:38

Interesting.

Firstly, it's only a word and one used pretty frequently on AIBU.

Secondly, rather than explain you'd rather say that everyone else understood.

sharksDen · 24/09/2017 16:40

Sorry, I didn't mean to post.

I meant to ask one more time how your comment (which I quoted earlier) wasn't looking to divide opinion based on sex.

Going to answer or feeling a little embarrassed?

SerfTerf · 24/09/2017 16:40

How many clarifications can one person possibly need?

sharksDen · 24/09/2017 16:47

Just one.

I don't understand how your comment didn't show you were splitting opinion based on sex (despite not knowing the sex of the poster).

From you reluctance to answer, I can only assume you're embarrassed by your own sexism.