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To think a single man travelling to Thailand regularly is up to no good

505 replies

Katyazamo · 23/09/2017 16:35

My uncle (who I am not particularly close to) travels to Thailand alone several times a year. He is in his mid 50s and has lived with my grandad since divorcing his wife around 20 years ago.
It's suddenly occurred to me that he's probably up to no good :/
AIBU?

OP posts:
TheEgregiousPeach · 24/09/2017 10:56

gotspoiler can you see how insulting your last post was? You're insinuating that men find it harder to get sex and need facilitating in this by the exploitation of women ( and maybe children) through prostitution. Most men I know would be horrifically insulted by this supposition and certainly wouldn't feel they had to turn to the sex trade

Hulder · 24/09/2017 10:58

Problem I was told the same by an ex a long time ago.

Could be blatant - anyone booking to Pattaya. Or subtle - you can fit in a nice bit of sex tourism on the side after visiting a few temples in the morning.

He was v much a bloke's bloke so men cheerfully told him about this stuff as they thought he was a safe pair of ears.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 10:59

I think people forget that these poor sex deprived men are exploiting very very vulnerable women and children. So long as they are gratified though, who cares? Hmm

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19lottie82 · 24/09/2017 11:08

got please PLEASE tell me you're taking the absolute piss? Shock

Butterymuffin · 24/09/2017 11:08

I knew it'd be our fault! No, sorry, I refuse to accept responsibility for some guy's sleazy choices. That's totally on him.

Dalphidol · 24/09/2017 11:08

Most men I personally know that has visited Amsterdam has been with a prostitute and is open about it so I would sadly think the same about another sex tourism place.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 24/09/2017 11:08

And if only there were not so many attractive women and girls in Thailand

Poor men how can they help themselves Sad

TheEgregiousPeach · 24/09/2017 11:11

Ok, now we've got a full house. Western women it's all our fault Hmm

Lethaldrizzle · 24/09/2017 11:14

I think got was joking?

2rebecca · 24/09/2017 11:15

I would suspect he's a sex tourist as well.
If you were closer to him it would be obvious when he's talking about his holidays, not because he'd mention it but it wouldn't be obvious what else he was going for, as you're not close to him you won't know and I suppose it doesn't really matter.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 11:35

* Surely western women are making this happen. If western women would stop being shallow and picky then men wont be going abroad for sex?*

I’m going to take this as irony as surely no one is that hateful?

BertrandRussell · 24/09/2017 11:36

"I think got was joking?"

I hope so. Unfortunately, many people do seriously believe what she is saying.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 11:36

Based on gots previous posting history I don’t actually think that was a joke.

gotspoiler · 24/09/2017 11:38

If women can get their needs fulfilled, then so can men. Seems empowering and liberating when women do it. Many posters here just want to police male sexuality

Lweji · 24/09/2017 11:41

Many posters here just want to police male sexuality

Grin Glitterball
gotspoiler · 24/09/2017 11:46

It's true though. Would you like yours to be controlled? No? Don't do it to men then

HerRoyalChocolateBunny · 24/09/2017 11:49

well, not that anyone can verify, but I worked in Thailand for 2 years (and Laos for 1) and I worked in a charity that provided support to women and child victims of trafficking.

I can't even talk about some of the things I have seen. Now I have left that sort of work I have to blank many things from my mind otherwise I simply could not function in this world.

The sexual proclivities of some men is a nasty nasty dark thing.

And yes, tbh I would think a single man who visits that part of the world several times a year is up to no good.

Flopjustwantscoffee · 24/09/2017 11:50

Got, anyone, male or female, who is exploiting children or those much more vulnerable than them should have their sexuality controlled yes. Of course, the people doing the exploiting probably don't want to be stopped but tough shit. Just as if it was my sexual preference to go round killing people. I couldn't argue "hey, it's just my sexuality, stop trying to control it man"

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 24/09/2017 11:50

gotspoiler

If women can get their needs fulfilled, then so can men. Seems empowering and liberating when women do it. Many posters here just want to police male sexuality

What a load of nonsense you have been talking.

No one here has defended female sex tourists. They do exist although in much smaller numbers but their behaviour is as execrable as male sex tourists, particularly if they were targeting under age boys.

Flopjustwantscoffee · 24/09/2017 11:50

Its not by the way

HerRoyalChocolateBunny · 24/09/2017 11:51

Oh i know, got . Women ARE to blame for men's behaviour. Clearly. Poor little innocent things without personal agency.

[sarcasm alert).

sharksDen · 24/09/2017 11:54

@CherryChasingDotMuncher

It’s fair to assume that a middle aged single man who frequents Thailand several times a year is going for sex.

No it fucking isn't. It just isn't. To my mind it's the very definition of unfair. I like to think the best of people and assume every one is innocent until proven otherwise, not simply make judgements because they have a penis (or not).

what kind of negative impact do you think will come from being appalled at men who rape prostitutes and children?

Sex with a prostitute is terrible but not rape. HTH. I feel desperately sorry for those women and I haven't said anything vaguely to the contrary. 3 years into our (now) 37 year marriage, DH had an affair. For better or worse, I forgave him and in hindsight am glad I did. I could never have forgiven him if it had been with a prostitute.

That isn't what's being discussed though. Not whether peadophilia or prostitution are wrong but if it's fair to judge a man for going to Thailand as nefarious because of the country (racism) or his sex (sexism).

I say it is abhorrent. You seem to virtually smirk at the idea of such -isms, as long as women aren't on the end of it.

This thread is about what men do.

No it isn't, although you're slowly swinging it that way and attempting to derail it into the usual mess. It's about just one man and if he is up to no good because of where he is visiting.

@TheEgregiousPeach

Man-hating feminazi was not used towards anyone; it was suggesting that some people will use others' opinions in that way. Wilfully mis-quoting makes people look idiotic. The issue for you dear is that anyone who wants to can scroll up and read what's been posted.

@Singingtherapy

Yes. A horrible, nasty, sexist one.

I assume you have no issue with anyone assuming your daughter's a slag if she wears a short skirt and flashes some cleavage or would that be a horrible judgement based on nothing other than guesswork and her sex?

TheEgregiousPeach · 24/09/2017 11:56

Thing is got you are policing male and female sexuality with the views you espouse. You are enforcing the idea that men are entitled to sexual fulfillment and women ( or children) should provide it.

gotspoiler · 24/09/2017 11:58

Not all women there are trafficked though. Nothing wrong with a man going there to have legal consensual sex with a willing participant who isn't trafficked or into prostitution

To the people who are mad on this thread. What are you going to do to stop men doing this? Probably nothing