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Or is Jimmy Carr just a misogynist arse hole?

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VioletCharlotte · 23/09/2017 12:08

This week I went to see Jimmy Carr's live show. A friend of mine had tickets and asked my go along at the last minute as their mate dropped out. Now I've never really had an opinion on Jimmy Carr, he's just someone I've never paid much attention too, so didn't really know what to expect.

Most of the 2 hours were filled with cracks about rape, special needs children, blind people and women. I came away feeling quite sad that this is what's considered comedy. Friend (male) says I've obviously had a sense of humour bypass, but AIBU in thinking actually it's just not funny and Jimmy Carr is actually just a massive idiot?

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user1498240695 · 23/09/2017 23:13

He's a wankstain. If you want a good laugh may I suggest Lee Mack... Now he is funny

AbsentmindedWoman · 23/09/2017 23:14

Not fuzzy at all. That's nonsense.

I and others have specifically said in earlier posts that it is so called 'jokes' about sexual assault or disabled people that are not funny, and are problematic. They seem to be fair game at the moment in some circles. The type of joke I'm objecting to ridicules the survivor of assault, or the person with the disability.

I'm not talking about astute observational comedy that mocks the misogynist or bigot.

BoysofMelody · 24/09/2017 00:00

Thing is, Jimmy Carr's material is horrendous, but he's also a crap comedian. His delivery is rotten and his act is just a succession of punchlines, he can't craft an anecdote or subvert or challenge any of the norms of stand-up, all he's got is stale outrage.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 01:12

If we banned anything potentially offensive to someone there’d be no jokes or comedians, at all in the world.

Just don’t go again, find a comedian more to your taste

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 01:19

Boys we saw Jimmy Carr not long ago, some of his jokes I found funny, some I didn’t, but his strength is in taking on hecklers. He was very quick and very funny whenever someone heckled, without being (too) offensive to them. I’d actually rather see him just taking on hecklers for an hour than doing jokes

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 01:20

If you want a good laugh may I suggest Lee Mack... Now he is funny

Yes!

I cry laughing at his perfume ad joke.
And about the French waiter saying “It’s LA creme d’ouef, it’s feminine”. “It’s an egg custard. I want to eat it, not fuck it” 😂😂

BoysofMelody · 24/09/2017 07:44

If we banned anything potentially offensive to someone there’d be no jokes or comedians, at all in the world.

Who's talking about banning anything? I have no problem with people enjoying his comedy, but I'm equally entitled to find it cruel, crass and not particularly funny and make judgements about people who do enjoy his schtick.

makeourfuture · 24/09/2017 07:55

He was very quick and very funny whenever someone heckled, without being (too) offensive to them. I’d actually rather see him just taking on hecklers for an hour than doing jokes

Hecklers are fascinating. Who thinks it's a good idea to heckle a person who is a professional insult artist? Does it every night for a living.

Veterinari · 24/09/2017 08:12

I can't even watch him on to. Unbearably smug misogynistic tax-dodging arsehole. I have to turn over when he's on which is a shame as I like comedy panel shows but I just can't bear him.

Ledkr · 24/09/2017 08:14

He said something really bad to my friend when she got up for the loo:
She heckled him back saying she thought she was seeing Alsn Carr not him Grin
When she got back from the loo she was refused re entry 😳

KERALA1 · 24/09/2017 08:23

Saying equivalent disgusting abusive things about black people would rightly not be allowed. Why then is it ok to say about women or disabled? genuinely don't get it.

Agree shouldn't be censored if you want to pay to see that up to you. Ge should not be on tv though in anything.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 08:50

YY makeour I think of a lot of them are amateur stand-up comedians seeing if they can take on the big guns!

R2G · 24/09/2017 08:56

YANBU like him on shows he hosts such as countdown - we watched his DVD on NYE. My dad became so upset by some of the child jokes we had to turn it off. Didn't laugh once ourselves. Really wierd.

TheLuminaries · 24/09/2017 08:57

I don't think comedians like Jimmy Carr, Jim Davidson and Frankie Boyle should be banned, it just utterly depresses me that these men are so wealthy and successful with their vile, sexist, disablist, homophobic, racist 'humour'.

The alternative comedians of the 80s seemed to sweep away a lot of the tired, white male trope of 'punching down' but it has come back with a vengeance. These comedians reflect the society they perform to and it is clear it is a society full of hate and fear of anyone who is 'other'.

BoysofMelody · 24/09/2017 09:09

The alternative comedians of the 80s seemed to sweep away a lot of the tired, white male trope of 'punching down' but it has come back with a vengeance.

I think the origin myth of alternative comedy is that they swept away all the racism and homophobia of the 70s comedy scene, but it was pretty much a middle class boys club (with a few notable exceptions) and in their year zero fervour, a lot of good and interesting older comedians who didn't come from a university background were unfairly maligned and trashed. Les Dawson, Marti Kane, Dave Allen (and to an extent) Bob Monkhouse et al.

Unfortunately for

Timefortea99 · 24/09/2017 09:14

The only time I have seen Jimmy Carr is on TV. I watch 8-10 does Countdown but he is an irrelevance to it, I just like the format and the rest of the panellists. My overriding impression of JC is that is a snide, oily, vain (hair/teeth!), stingy, false narcissit. I would never see him live.

Frankie Boyle - shudders. Gives me the dry heaves.

I have seen Bob Monkhouse live. Under duress, I was expecting his oily quiz persona. But he was excellent. He was very quick witted. Told a few blue jokes and did this genius thing when he talked to the audience in large numbers and did a joke based on that conversation. (I think he collected jokes?) He was not offensive at all. He is as far removed from Jimmy Carr as Mother Theresa was to Hitler. Not sure how JC can be seen in the same light as BM.

TheStoic · 24/09/2017 09:16

I think he's fucking awful. Nasty, mean little man.

Gottagetmoving · 24/09/2017 09:29

Ha,...people on here hating FB and JC but use language like 'cunt' and 'wanker' and 'wankstain' to describe them!!
I'm not keen on Jimmy Carr, he just says things to shock and comes across as pervy...but Frankie Boyle is quite political and there is a lot more to him than a bloke just standing on a stage being rude.
It's obvious that lots of posters only know him from a few tv appearances and they have only heard stuff that shocks them without thinking about the point he is trying to make.
If you don't get it...you don't get it.

MorrisZapp · 24/09/2017 09:35

The day these twats start making racist jokes is the day I'll accept 'it's just a personal!' as an excuse for the misogyny and disablism.

But they won't challenge anyone bigger than themselves because they are pathetic little cowards.

MorrisZapp · 24/09/2017 09:36

Persona.

MorrisZapp · 24/09/2017 09:37

The last time I saw Frank Skinner live he made some pretty disgusting comments about consent too.

TheStoic · 24/09/2017 09:37

It's obvious that lots of posters only know him from a few tv appearances and they have only heard stuff that shocks them without thinking about the point he is trying to make.

Oh do please explain the point/s he is trying to make. We are too stupid to understand.

BertrandRussell · 24/09/2017 09:42

Frank Skinner is very sleazy. Which is a shame, because he is also erudite, interesting and witty.

derxa · 24/09/2017 09:42

Oh do please explain the point/s he is trying to make. We are too stupid to understand. yes please explain

Gottagetmoving · 24/09/2017 09:50

Oh do please explain the point/s he is trying to make. We are too stupid to understand
Well maybe you are,...
www.chortle.co.uk/news/2011/03/22/13005/frankie_boyle_stands_firm_over_harvey_gag

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