Political correctness gone mad - parents under fire from withdrawing their child from school after male class mate wears a dress.

[ThaiRedCurry]

Ok so just catching up with my mail online news before bed. I've seen a Christian couple have withdrawn their son from school due to his male, 6 year old class mate wearing a dress to school.
They where on This Morning and have come under fire from viewers and the presenters for their decision to remove their son from the school as they don't agree with a boy wearing a dress.
I will just say I would find it a little odd but wouldn't withdraw my child from school.
I can't help but feel that if another race/religion did the same thing they wouldn't come under fire. It's as if white British folk are trying to be so politically correct we no longer can see what is ok and what isn't incase we offend some one.
I feel political correctness has gone mad 😖
I'm now going to sit and wait for Mums net abuse to roll in.

DumdeDum because that's not how I read what the Parents are saying. From their attitude, I feel like they are saying that he must be vulnerable to feel like he has to declare his gender to get some attention. (bare if mind this is the second child they've pulled out of the school for the same thing).

But listening to the Dad on Radio 4 today, it did sound like he had a problem with boys wearing dresses
I sometimes wonder whether there's some homophobia underlying views like this. Almost like it's 'better' in their mind to have a trans girl than a more effeminate boy who may also be gay.

I don't doubt there will be trans people. But with kids, i cant help that thr trans agenda can be a bit 'dont fit your stereotype? Dont worry you are probably really thr opposite sex inside'.

As a child I was a tomboy, had loads of boy mates, liked tractors, climbing, model makinh and turning my barbies into action heroes. I'm now a grown feminine woman who still enjoys being active. It's a good job nobody thought 'maisy likes boy things and hates pink. She must be a boy on thr inside'.

Now, that's not very polite, is it!

Oh dear, we needn't have linked to terfisaslur.com/ now, did we?

The resident transgenderist was so kind as to demonstrate to us that they consider everyone who disagrees with transagenda subhuman and not deserving of the most basic politeness.

I won't refer to a man as "she/her" or a woman as "he/him", because it's not true.

How do you judge someone's manliness or womanliness? Do you do a test?

When the child wore a dress they were refered to as a girl and when they wore trousers to school they were refered to as a boy! Of course that's ducking confusing not to mention fucking sexist! Being a female does not = wearing dresses! How is ANYBODY comfortable with little girls being told that what defines being a girl is wanting to wear a dress!!!!

ignore me.
I read that as beinh the trans childs parent saying thay rather than tje parent who pulled the child out. Massive misunderstanding

askbasil

There's a deep irony in people saying something about trans people is bollox when there's a small sample size but then the same people quoting negative statistics about trans people when it suits their agenda even if it's a small sample size.

But I suppose that's what activists of all persuasions have to do.

East
How do you think you tell the difference? It's truly a wonder we have survived as a species.

Oh, if my child were in that class, I would just say that Alex wants to be a girl, wear dresses and be called 'she' and that the school says this is allowed. I also might tell my child, adults decide to do this too. But, yes, Alex has a male body.

I originally thought the parents were complaining about a 6yo boy (their son's classmate) wearing a dress to school, and I thought it was sad they should make a fuss about that.

But if their son (and other classmates) is being asked to believe (or act as if) the child is actually a girl when wearing a dress - and back to being a boy when not wearing a dress? - then I completely understand why they aren't happy about that.

I'm not sure some posters are aware this is a Church of England school...

...requiring the belief that the wearing of a dress causes a change of fundamental biology.

Yes, I know the Church requires all sorts of other suspensions of disbelief, so what's one more eh? Maybe that's the best way of looking at it. Like some sort of transubstantiation through the medium of gendered school uniform.

How do you judge someone's manliness or womanliness? Do you do a test?

Er, not so much a test as dufferent body parts.

^It wasn't the dress it was referring to him as her/she on the days the child was a girl and the confusion that would cause
This needs some serious research. Who has taught this child putting on a dress=girl^

Really? Is that why they pulled their other kid out then because of gender issues? Why they've repeatedly said they took their other son out because it was confusing him. Or also why the Mum stood in front of the itv cameras earlier and said "it's almost like we've been discriminated against".

The school obviously gave them a staunch reply because they are obviously 'those' parents.

Whilst I don't believe boys can become girls or vice versa I can't imagine that the average 6 year old would be so "confused" by the idea that they couldn't function as a classmate of said child . 6 year olds still believe in dragons and fairies and Father Christmas ffs. If i can explain religious beliefs and the need to be sensitive towards them to my kids, they could explain similar to theirs. Neither they or their kids has to agree with it.

They are forced to agree with it, though. They are punished for saying that the emperor has no clothes on, basically.

And when I was 6, I didn't believe in any of the above. I clearly remember telling classmates off for their silly genderist beliefs.

I absolutely did refer to the transgender children I taught in the way that they preferred. My views on biological sex and issues with the concept of gender did not need to be articulated in the classroom they were learning in, even by referring to a child as "she" when they wanted to be "he".

Why all of a sudden are people keen to make male and female the same. We are different. It's what makes life enriching. All this gender nonsense is getting out of hand. One school has banned skirts. Why? Why can't girls still wear them? I would have hated to wear trousers at school due to my large bottom. Easier to hide it in an A line skirt!

Back to the OP tho, no, political correctness has not 'gawn maaad'.

PC is basically being polite and considerate, for the avoidance of hurting others.
Sometimes people are over-zealous in their efforts to accommodate others, and sometimes those 'others' are batshit crazy or taking advantage.

The trans topic is such a giant shitshow that it practically invites this type of shit from the Daily Fail et al.

Those that have said the only reason parents would let a child wear a dress is because they're attention seeking? ODFOD. So, those little kids you see in the park, dressed in their tutu and batman helmet, that's attention seeking is it? I see kids having fun, and enjoying freedom of self expression. My DS only wanted to wear green last year, so he mostly did. It does no harm.
Anything other than Mao suits could be construed as attention seeking by that rationale.
We all have our preferences, children are no exception. Whether it's a phase or permanent is none of our business.

How do you judge someone's manliness or womanliness? Do you do a test?

Why is a 'test' necessary? The sex of the vast majority of people is readily apparent. Surely you're not unable to ascertain the sex of most people without empirical evidence or a chromosome profile?

I'm not sure some posters are aware this is a Church of England school...

The parents themselves are JWs according to sources. Does make me wonder why they chose such a school. I'm sure it wasn't for the Ofsted rating but then I'm getting rather cynical in my old age.

Reeaally don't understand why the hell this would cause the child so much "aniexty" and stress, my DD(7) would seriously not care less if this is a boy in her class. Parents need to get a fooking grip

How do you judge someone's manliness or womanliness? Do you do a test?

No, that's the genderists. They have those nice internet tests you can fill out and they'll tell you what your gender is.

We boring normal people just look at someone's body and recognize their actual, physical sex. You know. Whether they have ovaries or testicles. It is surprising how in 90% of cases you can tell that even if the person has clothes on, and you can be sure in 99,9% of cases if they're naked. And without that person answering a single test question! Hey, we don't even need a microscope!

Didn't see the This Morning thing but here's my 2p worth.

If Adam or James in my 5 year old's class decides he wants to turn up in a dress, fine. Same as if Rachel or Kate wanted to wear shorts, shirt and tie. Crack on.

BUT - and it's a massive but - referring to Adam and James as Anna and Jane and calling them "she" and "her" and "girl" is totally ludicrous and I can see why the parents are calling the school out on this.

But you can't say that as you're labelled transphobic. Even though we're talking about FIVE YEAR OLDS.

In fact, we were at Disneyland a few weeks ago and she was talking to a boy in the queue who was wearing a princess dress. She never commented once (v proud )

Yes, I know the Church requires all sorts of other suspensions of disbelief, so what's one more eh? Maybe that's the best way of looking at it

Yes. I thought what the diocese said was lovely. "we encourage diversity of ALL kinds".

BusyBeez How do you mean, the same?
Do you really think that certain clothes should be reserved for one sex only?

Trousers don't make a man a man, and dresses don't make a woman a woman.

Banning skirts for everyone is just as daft as not letting boys wear them.