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Political correctness gone mad - parents under fire from withdrawing their child from school after male class mate wears a dress.

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ThaiRedCurry · 11/09/2017 22:07

Ok so just catching up with my mail online news before bed. I've seen a Christian couple have withdrawn their son from school due to his male, 6 year old class mate wearing a dress to school.
They where on This Morning and have come under fire from viewers and the presenters for their decision to remove their son from the school as they don't agree with a boy wearing a dress.
I will just say I would find it a little odd but wouldn't withdraw my child from school.
I can't help but feel that if another race/religion did the same thing they wouldn't come under fire. It's as if white British folk are trying to be so politically correct we no longer can see what is ok and what isn't incase we offend some one.
I feel political correctness has gone mad 😖
I'm now going to sit and wait for Mums net abuse to roll in.

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LineysRunner · 11/09/2017 22:51

Gender is such crap.

OhtoblazeswithElvira · 11/09/2017 22:51

While kids may not understand the complexities of gender issues, they can and should understand politeness.

And then...

These parents just sound like attention-seeking assholes

Grin
BertrandRussell · 11/09/2017 22:52

Bizarre that they have no trouble explaining the virgin birth and the resurrection and the story of Noah to their children But can't say "Oh yes, he's a boy but he likes wearing dresses.

Dumdedumdum · 11/09/2017 22:52

Why do you think they are not vulnerable, JonSnow? We are often told how much being transgender affects someone's mental health and can lead to self harm and suicide. So why would we not view a six year old unhappy in their own body as being vulnerable?

AskBasil · 11/09/2017 22:53

*"Sometimes, boys and girls can feel that the body they have doesn't match how they feel inside. It can be a bit difficult but it's kind to talk to them in the way that they feel inside. So let's be kind and treat "Alex" as a girl."

Now that wasn't so fucking difficult, was it?*

Well yes, it is difficult. Why are little girls being taught that Alex feels like a girl inside? What are they supposed to understand feeling like a girl to mean? What does it tell them about what being a girl is?

No-one ever explains boys who they call transgender feeling like a girl, in anything other than sexist stereotypes: girls wear dresses, like pink, glitter, fairies, nail-varnish, etc. Boys like climbing trees, maths, guns, cars and earning 22% more than girls. If girls like climbing trees, camp-fires, dinosaurs etc., then they receive the message that they're not liking the sort of things girls like; are they really girls then?

Why would anyone be in favour of girls being treated like this?

AssignedPerfectAtBirth · 11/09/2017 22:53

Swan

Good link. The pink baseball bats get me every time

Imonlyfuckinghuman · 11/09/2017 22:53

This is a small piece of a much larger agenda

Not only are women being forced to accept men are now women if they feel like it, to accept them in prisons, toilets and any other safe space it's now being forced in our primary schools. So that in the generations to come it will be the norm to have no women only spaces at all.

I want my kids to go to school to concentrate and to focus on education not having to pretend that the boy in your class is now a girl and to have to watch their pronouns around then incase it causes offence. Why should six year old have to deal with that?

It's too much.

My nephew was always classed as 'camp' when a small child, he did grow up to be gay but no body declared his sexuality at the age of six!!

Dumdedumdum · 11/09/2017 22:54

Bertrand that explanation wouldn't be accepted though, their son would still end up using wrong pronouns and possibly dead-naming the transgirl. (I wish I were joking)

orlantina · 11/09/2017 22:54

Maybe children should be allowed to wear whatever they want.

But listening to the Dad on Radio 4 today, it did sound like he had a problem with boys wearing dresses. He mentioned nothing about gender dysphoria and expressed no sympathy for this child. He said 'boys are boys and girls are girls'.

terrylene · 11/09/2017 22:54

"Sometimes, boys and girls can feel that the body they have doesn't match how they feel inside. It can be a bit difficult but it's kind to talk to them in the way that they feel inside. So let's be kind and treat "Alex" as a girl."

Now that wasn't so fucking difficult, was it?!

But that is patronising. You have be seen to believe it.

MagdalenLaundry · 11/09/2017 22:54

This has been badly reported
It wasn't the dress it was referring to him as her/she on the days the child was a girl and the confusion that would cause
This needs some serious research. Who has taught this child putting on a dress=girl

busyboysmum · 11/09/2017 22:55

Askbasil absolutely. We are going backwards. Bloody terrifying. Leave the poor kids alone to explore without pushing them into hormones and surgery and all that bullshit.

VestalVirgin · 11/09/2017 22:56

AssignedPerfect thanks for linking to that site! I couldn't get it to do that clicky link thing. (But intended to post the very same link)

Great minds think alike. Smile

I trust you're advising you DH so that he can avoid touching you when you have your period, and taking along those doves each month? Because you wouldn't just pick out the bits of the bible you like, to support your own views, would you?

Hahaha, are you for real? Oh my. Grin

I'm a feminist and atheist, and perhaps you should have read my nickname before assuming I was married.

I just read the whole Bible. Unlike some people who like to pull this "No True Christian" nonsense. If you are a Christian, you have to deal with the uncomfortable fact that those people belong to the same religion.

NYConcreteJungle · 11/09/2017 22:56

If the HT is behaving like Umbridge, I don't blame the parents. It's psychological abuse to punish a child for speaking the truth, if a six year old believes that boy/transgirl is still a boy.

orlantina · 11/09/2017 22:57

It wasn't the dress it was referring to him as her/she on the days the child was a girl and the confusion that would cause

The dad didn't mention that on the radio today.

He just said that one day the child would come in a dress and the next in trousers.

LineysRunner · 11/09/2017 22:58

I hated being a girl as a young kid. Hated it. That was because of the gender shit I had to perform, not the 'feelz'. Of course I'm a woman. I don't hate being a woman. But I hate having to be performing gender and the societal expectations around it.

donquixotedelamancha · 11/09/2017 22:58

[Misses point of thread on purpose]

"Religion has no place in schools."

The UK has an established state religion. Religious worship (not necessarily the established one) is mandated in state schools. Many schools are specifically set up with support from/culture of a specific religion.

Were you describing your ideal situation, or have you really no idea how schools work?

BeBeatrix · 11/09/2017 22:59

While kids may not understand the complexities of gender issues, they can and should understand politeness. There's no need for them to see it as any bigger deal if a kid in their class wants to use different pronouns than if a kid or an adult wants to say a prayer over a meal, or wear a religious head-covering. Kids can and should be taught not to make personal remarks, however odd another person appears, if that person is not hurting or harassing them (we don't ask strangers why they are so fat, for example, or tell them their shoes are horrible.)

This goes well beyond politeness. I wouldn't make an uninvited comment on someone's appearance / dress / gender characteristics, out of politeness. But I won't refer to a man as "she/her" or a woman as "he/him", because it's not true. I'll love and help that person far more than many others who'd accuse me of bigotry would, but I won't lie for them or about them, even to spare their feelings.

These parents just sound like attention-seeking assholes.

Now, that's not very polite, is it! Confused

LineysRunner · 11/09/2017 23:00

The parents did numerous interviews today on radio and tv.

EamonnWright · 11/09/2017 23:00

This whole Transgender thing is not going to end well. All I have to do to be a women is fill a form in? I can apply to work in DV shelters? What about the women completely scared of men just as they are out of the relationship? Can I work as a rape crisis phone operator? Would someone just raped want to hear a manly voice?

It's got mayhem and law suits all over it.

VestalVirgin · 11/09/2017 23:00

Why would anyone be in favour of girls being treated like this?

Yeah, no one but the most woman-hating, sadistic jerk ever would ... oh, that's right, genderists are misogynists. Once one accepts that, it is all really obvious.

VeryCunningStunt · 11/09/2017 23:01

But can't say "Oh yes, he's a boy but he likes wearing dresses.

It's the requirement to agree that 'Oh yes, he's a boy but he likes wearing dresses and so now she is a girl' that is the nub of the issue.

BarbarianMum · 11/09/2017 23:01

Whilst I don't believe boys can become girls or vice versa I can't imagine that the average 6 year old would be so "confused" by the idea that they couldn't function as a classmate of said child . 6 year olds still believe in dragons and fairies and Father Christmas ffs. If i can explain religious beliefs and the need to be sensitive towards them to my kids, they could explain similar to theirs. Neither they or their kids has to agree with it.

AssignedPerfectAtBirth · 11/09/2017 23:02

I find it deeply suspicious that the first big gender critical case covered by MSM emphasised the couple being 'Christian', There are plenty of gender critical parents out there. But the bad Christians are being mean to the little boy in the dress. They may not even understand the politics of the gender identity bollocks. They certainly are not eloquent on the subject. Isn't that convenient?

This isn't about boys wearing dresses and it isn't about toilets. It's about being railroaded into accepting the lie that people can change sex. They can't. End of.

AskBasil · 11/09/2017 23:02

The suicide stats are bollocks

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