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Political correctness gone mad - parents under fire from withdrawing their child from school after male class mate wears a dress.

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ThaiRedCurry · 11/09/2017 22:07

Ok so just catching up with my mail online news before bed. I've seen a Christian couple have withdrawn their son from school due to his male, 6 year old class mate wearing a dress to school.
They where on This Morning and have come under fire from viewers and the presenters for their decision to remove their son from the school as they don't agree with a boy wearing a dress.
I will just say I would find it a little odd but wouldn't withdraw my child from school.
I can't help but feel that if another race/religion did the same thing they wouldn't come under fire. It's as if white British folk are trying to be so politically correct we no longer can see what is ok and what isn't incase we offend some one.
I feel political correctness has gone mad 😖
I'm now going to sit and wait for Mums net abuse to roll in.

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differenteverytime · 11/09/2017 22:38

Yes, if there was less gendered thinking then kids could just express themselves and wear/play with whatever they wanted.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 11/09/2017 22:38

Absolutely dum

I didnt realise that the child wants to be known as a female name when in a dress and male in trousers...if im understanding other posts that is

Very confusing

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 11/09/2017 22:39

cough

Lovely, you obviously know...did the parents go to the press then?

SirVixofVixHall · 11/09/2017 22:39

I agree with Vestal. The whole thing was presented as them objecting to his dress, when what they actually objected to was a trans ideaology being forced onto their six year old. Telling little children that it is possible to change sex, and that you can do that just by "feelings" is a disgraceful lie. It is the manipulation and gaslighting of small children.

LineysRunner · 11/09/2017 22:40

The parents say their 6 year old was in trouble for 'misgendering' another 6 year old. That's very, very young.

ReanimatedSGB · 11/09/2017 22:42

While kids may not understand the complexities of gender issues, they can and should understand politeness. There's no need for them to see it as any bigger deal if a kid in their class wants to use different pronouns than if a kid or an adult wants to say a prayer over a meal, or wear a religious head-covering. Kids can and should be taught not to make personal remarks, however odd another person appears, if that person is not hurting or harassing them (we don't ask strangers why they are so fat, for example, or tell them their shoes are horrible.)
These parents just sound like attention-seeking assholes.

JonSnowsWife · 11/09/2017 22:43

Objecting to a boy wearing a dress is pretty ridiculous, IMO - but the issue here seems to be that when this child wears a dress, the other children are obliged to agree that he is in fact a girl, or they risk getting into trouble.

They kept saying repeatedly on tv today. That their issue is that they parents were consulted. If a lad walked into my sons class tomorrow, wearing a dress, I wouldn't huff and puff about not being consulted. But then my HFA son would probably go straight up to him and ask him all those awkward but direct questions. He certainly wouldn't be confused about it!

EamonnWright · 11/09/2017 22:43

The parents say their 6 year old was in trouble for 'misgendering' another 6 year old. That's very, very young.

You can't have a bet on the football until you're 18 yet you can change gender Confused

AssignedPerfectAtBirth · 11/09/2017 22:43

Skarossinkplunger

terfisaslur.com/

While you are waiting for Vestal's response, have a look at the response to criticism of transagenda

AskBasil · 11/09/2017 22:44

Using the phrase "political correctness gone mad" never ends well.

This couple are obviously not very media savvy, but the issue isn't that the boy wears a dress; it's that other children are being forced to pretend they believe he's a girl when he does.

Other children are being taught that sexist stereotypes are true, that only boys can wear trousers and only girls can wear dresses and that if the boy wears a dress, he's a girl. The dress has some kind of magical power that turns him into a girl.

How the hell can anyone think that's progressive?

Dumdedumdum · 11/09/2017 22:45

Quote from the father, below. Doesn't sound too controversial to me.

The plumber added: ‘In basic terms, we believe it is wrong to encourage very young and vulnerable children to embrace the false promise of transgenderism.
‘We think there is a real danger of children being left with psychological issues. They are complex social issues but the fact is they are too complex for a child.
‘We have great compassion for children with gender dysphoria. All children are special. But we think their parents are being served a huge injustice by the schools – they need more professional, private help

EastMidsMummy · 11/09/2017 22:46

"Sometimes, boys and girls can feel that the body they have doesn't match how they feel inside. It can be a bit difficult but it's kind to talk to them in the way that they feel inside. So let's be kind and treat "Alex" as a girl."

Now that wasn't so fucking difficult, was it?!

orlantina · 11/09/2017 22:47

As an aside - I am not sure if they should have gone to the press.
There is a child who has some issues - they could just like wearing dresses or there could be more going on. This family have gone to the press. Even though the school has not been identified, it's not hard to identify it from the reporting and the age of the child.

Aren't there some confidentiality issues for the child involved? I really hope the press leave them alone.

JonSnowsWife · 11/09/2017 22:47

In basic terms, we believe it is wrong to encourage very young and vulnerable children to embrace the false promise of transgenderism.

See I take issue with that statement in the first sentence. Why does he see these children as vulnerable?

StatelessPrincess · 11/09/2017 22:47

It's as if white British folk are trying to be so politically correct we no longer can see what is ok and what isn't incase we offend some one
Aw bless, dont worry OP, I'm Muslim and people offend me all the time, honestly. Feel better now?

AssignedPerfectAtBirth · 11/09/2017 22:47

ReanimatedSGB
So you think it's ok to compel children to tell lies and to accept lies as truth?

DixieNormas · 11/09/2017 22:48

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uglyswan · 11/09/2017 22:48

To posters perplexed by Vestal's comment, this is the sort of thing she is referring to: transdykes the anti lesbian antifa (hint: not dykes and certainly not antifascists).

LineysRunner · 11/09/2017 22:49

Eamonn, that's a point my teenage DS made today. If a kid can't vote till they're 18, it's a bit rich to dump a 'transphobic' label on a 6 year old at infant school.

The parents may well be transphobic.

But a 6 year old? Really? That's no more rational than saying dresses are inherently female.

GwenStaceyRocks · 11/09/2017 22:49

It's not about a boy wearing a dress. It's about the class being told he is now a girl and they'll get into trouble if they say differently.
Tbh I would wonder how the school is going to teach biology and/or sex ed if they think wearing a dress and changing your name means you have changed sex.

Winebomb · 11/09/2017 22:50

You lost me at mail online op

misshelena · 11/09/2017 22:50

YANBU but I judge both sides.
First the parents who put the boy in a dress. Why other than to get attention?? I hate people who try SOOO hard to get attention. Don't tell me the desire to wear a dress is so overwhelming that he just had to! Like being gay. Plenty of people are gay or anywhere along the gender spectrum and never experience such overwhelming desire to wear a dress.

Second, the parents who withdrew their kid from school. Why?? How is this any of your business?? Just live and let live! Mind your own business! Sheesh.. do they not have anything else to occupy their time? How can they or anyone be "hurt" by some attention-seeking boy wearing a dress??

VforVienetta · 11/09/2017 22:50

And this is why gender stereotypes are so bloody harmful.

Wearing a dress and feeling like a girl at 6 is fine, but for a school to insist that other pupils accept that this child has changed from a boy to a girl is just bizarre, and very harmful.
What happens when the kid goes thru more changes and decides that actually he is a boy after all? It's bloody ridiculous to let them believe that they have to make a set choice at such a young age.
Just let the child wear what he wants. A dress is just clothes.
Why on earth didn't they go down the route of clothes being clothes, and for everyone? Gender identity is way over a 6yo's head.

My 6yo DS prefers cardigans over sweatshirts. Because this gender specific clothing bullshit is so pervasive, he was bullied over it from Reception on - in this area girls wear cardies, and boys wear sweatshirts.
One of his female classmates only ever wears trousers/shorts. It's fine for her to wear so-called 'boys' uniform, and it's fine for him to wear 'girls' uniform. They're just clothes.

Whoever this kid is, I think it's sad that he's been told that he has to decide to be a 'girl' to wear what he wants, rather than just be himself.

scottishretreat · 11/09/2017 22:50

The Bible in fact explicitly forbids crossdressing
Yes, it also says that if you touch a menstruating woman you will become unclean, and that when a woman finished her period, 'On the eighth day she must bring two turtledoves or two young pigeons and present them to the priest at the entrance of the Tabernacle'.

I trust you're advising you DH so that he can avoid touching you when you have your period, and taking along those doves each month? Because you wouldn't just pick out the bits of the bible you like, to support your own views, would you?

VestalVirgin · 11/09/2017 22:50

I'm going to need an explanation!

Look up the website terfisaslur.com . (Terf is their slur for women, specifically feminists, who disagree with genderist ideology)

It has only quotes from transgenderists on it,and it is pretty much self-explaining if you look at it.

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