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AIBU?

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Another school uniform one! Girls being forced to wear dresses?

161 replies

Wanderlust1984 · 11/09/2017 13:01

My DD's school have sent a letter out stating 'girls must wear skirts or dresses' - 1950s much?? Surely this is ridiculous and shouldn't be mandated? Or AIBU?

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Foxyloxy1plus1 · 11/09/2017 17:42

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation, please bear in mind that the advice to contact the governors/Ofsted immediately, is not always helpful.

You would have to decide whether or not the choice of uniform was an operational or strategic decision. Operational is for the SLT to decide upon and strategic involves the governors. They would probably be involved in a decision to change the uniform or the uniform supplier, but perhaps not the day to day monitoring of it.

I do agree though, that there are anomalies in uniform for both boys and girls- long hair on boys, ties, blazers, trousers, make up, hair colour, shoes and so on.

I'm not against uniform per se and I see the reasons for some decisions such as wearing closed toe and 'proper' shoes, tying hair back etc, but as someone who had to 'police' uniform regularly, I rather resented the amount of time and effort it took.

Ilikehappy · 11/09/2017 17:54

An 18 year old boy can be a feminist in the same way a white person can be a black rights activist. Very, very carefully.

JonSnowsWife · 11/09/2017 18:05

My DD is a real skirt person. Has tonnes of dresses and skirts in her wardrobe.

However. She prefers to wear trousers on PE days as she can get them on better/quicker.

I'd complain too.

VestalVirgin · 11/09/2017 20:00

So you'd call liberal feminists and Everyday feminism feminist then? I'm sure both would agree children should be allowed to wear whatever clothes they want.

No, they don't care about the fact that forcing girls to undress in front of males makes girls uncomfortable.

And I don't believe that they really care about girls' comfort at all. If they did, why pick and choose in what instances girls have a right to be comfortable?

Concerning children wearing clothes, actually, I am pretty sure Everyday Feminism will soon publish an article on how butch lesbians are "transphobic" and ought to wear frilly dresses or come out as trans, as their wearing "men's" clothes while lacking gender delusion might lead some people to assume that transmen are just butch lesbians. Drag queens are already being accused of transphobia, so it is only a matter of time. Individual transactivists already bully butch lesbians, telling them to take testosterone.

yodelehoho · 11/09/2017 21:30

JonSnowsWife says She (my daughter) prefers to wear trousers on PE days as she can get them on better/quicker

Hah. If your daughter preferred chips and beans every night of the week would you think she should get her way with that too.

Your statement shows how ridiculous and entitled parents have become.

I feel so sorry for children nowadays.

Thank goodness my parents (and all of my childhood friends' parents) had different and wiser ways of parenting.

JonSnowsWife · 11/09/2017 22:11

Your statement shows how ridiculous and entitled parents have become

Eh? My daughter has SNs. But thanks for thinking I'm entitled because she chooses something which is easier for her to do on PE days. Confused

Thank God she goes to school where she can choose!

OvariesBeforeBrovaries · 11/09/2017 22:19

Thank goodness my parents (and all of my childhood friends' parents) had different and wiser ways of parenting

Yes thank goodness for the days of ritual child abuse and physical punishment accepted as "parenting" Hmm

JonSnowsWife · 11/09/2017 22:32

Isn't it just OvariesbeforeBrovaries?

I'm even old enough to remember them! Mainly because they didn't die out all that long ago.

goose1964 · 11/09/2017 22:36

I was at school in the 80s yes I know I'm getting on, and we had to wear skirts, trousers were only allowed if it was very cold in winter. It seems a bit outdated now

noeffingidea · 11/09/2017 22:38

I feel very sorry for any girls that are forced to wear skirts and tights. By tights, do they mean those ridiculous see through nylon things? What a pointless piece of clothing they are. Make you hot and sweaty in the summer and freezing cold in the winter, and don't actually cover anything.
We had to wear skirts in the 70's, thankfully the fashion was for mid calf length A-line skirts so not quite as bad .

Wanderlust1984 · 11/09/2017 23:06

Yodelehoho your last comment was bloody awful and uncalled for. Also, how is it 'wiser' for girls to be forced to wear skirts? I'm not an entitled parent, I'm not one to complain unless it's fully due, I tell DD off when she's in the wrong and don't expect any special treatment. I split from her dad when she was 2 and have to throw her in childcare most the bloody week - yet I've raised a well mannered, caring and grateful child. Surely if I was an entitled parent, I'd have raised a brat? I've always taught her that 'pink is for boys and girls', some men marry men and some women marry women. I'm proud to say she doesn't bat an eyelid when we meet my gay friends - I've taught her that it doesn't matter if somebody is wearing a turban, a burka or whatever, everyone deserves to be treat the same. So yes, alongside the fact I don't like my daughter being uncomfortable, I don't like the conflicting view this creates. Nothing to do with being an 'entitled parent' Hmm

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