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Another school uniform one! Girls being forced to wear dresses?

161 replies

Wanderlust1984 · 11/09/2017 13:01

My DD's school have sent a letter out stating 'girls must wear skirts or dresses' - 1950s much?? Surely this is ridiculous and shouldn't be mandated? Or AIBU?

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Wanderlust1984 · 11/09/2017 13:46

Fabulous idea, yodel. Have a fucking round of applause 👍

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IfYouHappenToSee · 11/09/2017 13:47

Why can't men be feminists?

I'd much rather men say they are feminists and challenge sexist behaviour and attitudes they encounter, for example, than not.

AssassinatedBeauty · 11/09/2017 13:47

I don't understand your objection @Wanderlust1984. Skirts are normal dress for girls, so that's presumably why it's the uniform for girls. If you don't agree at all with feminist ideologies then I can't see why this is a problem for you? What is it that you object to about being required to wear a skirt?

Gileswithachainsaw · 11/09/2017 13:47

Look it's simple.

Anybody should he able to wear whatever combination combination of the uniform they like.

School should just list appropriate items and let the kids pick what they want.

Job done

WhereDidThatTurtleComeFrom · 11/09/2017 13:48

Wanderlust, I think your thread has strayed. Definitely check out the first thread I linked as I believe the OP took it further and had great advice on it. You don't have to be a feminist to post in feminist chat btw and you'd probably get more useful answers. It tends to lean more radfem so they aren't as keen to call everyone in the first place Wink

SerfTerf · 11/09/2017 13:48

Ignoring the bollocks about feminism Is it a girls' school?

yodelehoho · 11/09/2017 13:49

The swearing on your response to me tells me all I need to know Wanderlust.

Wanderlust1984 · 11/09/2017 13:50

I don't object to her wearing a skirt. I object that she's not allowed to wear the trousers that are in the uniform, should she wish to. I went to primary school in 1990 where there was a uniform, by once did I wear a skirt as they were ugly AF

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Wanderlust1984 · 11/09/2017 13:50

What's that yodel, that I swear? 😂

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WhereDidThatTurtleComeFrom · 11/09/2017 13:50

There are many insightful and well written articles on male feminism if you care to look it up yourself. Personally I hold the word feminist up to mean someone who both deals with sexism in a personal way (which only a female can) and someone who informs themselves and usually does some sort of activism.

IfYouHappenToSee · 11/09/2017 13:50

The thing is Wanderlust. You just sound very angry about this, but don't really seem clear on what it is you are angry about or why it is making you angry.

On what basis are you actually cross with the school for saying girls should wear skirts/dresses if it's not that you think girls shouldn't be forced to wear skirts/dresses, and encouter the restrictions and inconveniences they create, just because they are girls.

WhereDidThatTurtleComeFrom · 11/09/2017 13:51

Swearing is very unladylike

FromTinyAcorns · 11/09/2017 13:51

x post

AssassinatedBeauty · 11/09/2017 13:51

Ah well that's simple I think, because the school will presumably have changed the uniform code to exclude trousers for girls. So she will be following the uniform code by wearing a skirt and breaking it by wearing trousers, as trousers are no longer part of the uniform code for girls.

Wanderlust1984 · 11/09/2017 13:52

I'm not angry, just think it's a pissy rule. And one that makes my DD self conscious, which obviously I don't like. The school is fabulous overall and I have zero other issues with them.

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SerfTerf · 11/09/2017 13:52

Swearing is very unladylike

Don't be fucking ridiculous. You sound as bad as she does 🙄

Salmakia · 11/09/2017 13:52

Just buy the approved boys trousers, put her in them and say she's trans... but doesn't want to change anything substantial... if Danielle Muscato can do it.

SeraphinaDombegh · 11/09/2017 13:52

I can't believe some of the comments here. I was fighting for the right to wear trousers as school uniform TWENTY FUCKING YEARS AGO. I can see no good reason whatsoever that any girl should be restricted to wearing a skirt at school these days. They're restrictive, harder to play in, make it necessary to wear tights (which can cause discomfort and thrush), and are less practical in almost every way. To anyone saying that the OP chose to send her DD to that school - what if she didn't choose? Lots of us got no choice whatsoever in what school our DCs attend. And even if she did choose the school, why does that mean she should be discouraged from trying to bring about positive change for her DD in a constructive way? FFS. Some of you need to take a good look at yourselves.

Wanderlust1984 · 11/09/2017 13:53

No it's a mixed school

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IfYouHappenToSee · 11/09/2017 13:53

I object that she's not allowed to wear the trousers that are in the uniform, should she wish to

Do you understand why she's not allowed to?

And what changes arbitrary rules like this for girls?

SerfTerf · 11/09/2017 13:53

If it's a coed school, then challenge it. CALMLY.

Wanderlust1984 · 11/09/2017 13:53

Thanks Seraphina Grin

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WhereDidThatTurtleComeFrom · 11/09/2017 13:54

I'm honest some of the feminists I know go so far with it that they're basically discriminatory against all men. I don't resonate with their ideologies at all and I'm definitely not a feminist

^op is clearly not a feminist, not sure why people are trying to recruit her?

SerfTerf · 11/09/2017 13:54

Maybe they're trying to educate her?

drspouse · 11/09/2017 13:55

She is a feminist unless she agrees that women should be allowed to be paid less, shouted at in the street, and generally discriminated against.

She just doesn't like some other feminists, which is fine, I don't like all feminists either.