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AIBU......mahoosive argument with sister

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mummyoutoflondon04 · 10/09/2017 14:38

I will try to be as brief as possible....basically we all shared a big house on holiday this year because it was Mum's 80th birthday in August. My sister is the youngest in our family and is pregnant with her 4th baby. Her other kids are all under 6!!! Mine are teenagers now. I adore her kids but she treats her eldest son as if he is the King of England. He calls all the shots and if he wants to do something it just has to happen. No idea why this is the case. He wanted to come and meet us on the beach one day and my sister texted me to ask where we were but unfortunately I didn't get the text for ages and we had changed our location several times so I couldn't exactly say where we were going to be. I did call her to explain where we roughly were and that we were exploring rather than just sitting around but got her answer phone so left a long message. That night when we had our joint family meal she was rather annoyed. To cut a long story short....when she went to put kids to bed I commented to Mum that I couldn't understand why she hadn't found out the sex of new baby due in October because her eldest wants a surprise (this is true!!) Mum was agreeing with me and then my sister stormed back in and went mad as she had been hiding behind kitchen door and had listened to our conversation. Huge row ensure. Concluded with my brother in law ordering us out of holiday home. We went and haven't spoken since. WWYD???

OP posts:
whichwaynow82 · 10/09/2017 15:59

You don't sound nice OP!

Your sister is very pregnant - you're bitching with your 80 year old mother.

You have the issues not her.

2017RedBlue · 10/09/2017 16:01

This reply has been withdrawn

The OP has privacy concerns and so we've agreed to take this down.

alltouchedout · 10/09/2017 16:03

I'm not sure why you're getting such a kicking, op- I agree you sound a bit mean and judgey about your sister having lots of young dc, but apart from that I think your annoyance is pretty justified. How unpleasant of your BIL to order you out like that.

NotTheDuchessOfCambridge · 10/09/2017 16:04

I agree with what most of the posters were saying.
Also, and lets face it, if you'd have wanted to meet up with her on the beach you would have. What you did was find reasons why you couldn't. She knows this and is already feeling hurt.

mummyoutoflondon04 · 10/09/2017 16:05

Clearly my exclamation marks have got everybody annoyed. I was just, rather clumsily implying she has a lot to do and it is clearly a busy household. I am not judgemental about the number of kids or the closeness in age. My own are barely a year apart. Our Mother booked and paid for the holiday home so I felt awful about the whole thing. It was clearly my fault but I thought my sister's reaction was a bit OTT. It made it worse as it was the last night of the holiday, too. My sister and I have a history of telling each other what to do. On another holiday many years ago, She told Me not to marry my husband We have been happily married for 15 years now!! This is not something I hold a grudge over however. I didn't mean to be nasty or upset anyone. Just want to resolve it. I have apologised profusely to Mum.

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Jammydodger81 · 10/09/2017 16:06

Nonsense Duchess she called her sister (which she wouldn't have done if she hadn't wanted to meet her) and got her voicemail, and left a message.

Italiangreyhound · 10/09/2017 16:06

My sister has criticised my parenting style. I'd be mortified if my Dh threw her out!

It also depends how much parenting styles impact another person. I've probably looked after my sister's kids twice as often as she has mine (not very often) and so she really hasn't't been influenced greatly by my parenting style.

Bluntness100 · 10/09/2017 16:06

I read it he ordered you out after the huge row and that's what's caused the division. The huge row .Did he pay for the house?

I'm also not sure why you couldn't just wait up for her to get her kid to join you on the beach.i suspect, like she did, it's because uou didn't want him there. All the " oh we don't know where we will be we're changing location" sounds like an excuse. It's easy to say ok meet you at three at x location.

As her kid is under six, what are we talking about, a five year old here, who uou object to her treatment of him? And you wonder why the replies aren't positive? When you're bad mouthing her parenting skills and her little kid?

Jammydodger81 · 10/09/2017 16:07

Has your sister or BIL apologised to your mum for being shitty over dinner or throwing you out?

Bluntness100 · 10/09/2017 16:07

i have apologised profusely to Mum

That's interesting. But not your sister or her husband?

mummyoutoflondon04 · 10/09/2017 16:08

BTW we didn't meet up on the beach because it was freezing and started to rain. We had all had several days out all together previous to this day and had arranged to meet up back at the pool later on so I had hardly ignored the.

OP posts:
MadMags · 10/09/2017 16:08

How did he throw you out, if it wasn't his rental??

pioe · 10/09/2017 16:10

Why don't you just say sorry?

Starlight2345 · 10/09/2017 16:10

Everything from both sides seem to be blown out of proportion..

I would phone or call round depends on how close you are, Bunch of flowers, cream cake...Something she would like..

She is pregnant , Your DM is 80 and doesn't need to deal with this..

Offer the Olive branch, tell her its a shame you didn't meet on the beach, and that you shouldn't of been gossiping to your DM and obviously it is her choice if she decides to find out or not...

Italiangreyhound · 10/09/2017 16:11

I think your real issue is with Bil. He sounds vile.

I don't think this is your fault. You sister is being unfair, by all means apologise for holding an opinion. It sounds like you and your sis have a complicated relationship.

Your Bil behaved appallingly.

DamsonGin · 10/09/2017 16:14

Have you apologised to her for talking about her behind her back?

Italiangreyhound · 10/09/2017 16:14

Why should the OP have to meet her nephew on the beach! How ridiculous not to have a choice about what you do on holiday!

I'm stepping away now OP just feel very angry for you. Shit situation. Hope it all gets resolved.

MrMessy · 10/09/2017 16:14

If your mother paid for the holiday home then why the hell did you leave when he ordered you out? I would have stayed put, he had no right to do that. For me, that is the most shocking part of this saga. The rest of it seems like siblings annoying each other, which lets face it happens no matter how old you all are. No one really behaved well in this, but throwing you and an 80year old out when he did not even pay is not on.

Quirkydamsel · 10/09/2017 16:17

I can't see what you did wrong OP apart from talking behind your ds back and lets face it even the best of us are guilty of doing that. Tbh I think your BIL behaved like a thug how dare he take it upon himself to order you out of the house . Bloody cheek of the man.
I would however apologise to your ds for talking behind her back . That is all I would do and leave it for a good while probably until she contacted me . Good Luck .

MadMags · 10/09/2017 16:19

You don't actually know why he did it.

Because according to OP there was a massive argument after sister heard them bitching. And let's be honest here, she was bitching about a child too.

Mummyoflittledragon · 10/09/2017 16:20

I think you were both bu. Her for expecting you to be in a certain spot even though you couldn't get through to her and didn't know if she'd got the message or how long she'd be. You for speaking about her family choices in relation to her son, whom you see as the golden child when you knew the situation was already tense.

Dh and I vowed never to go away with brother/sil and their son (6) again after two lowsy times where they were awkward and overbearing and treated us and our dd pretty poorly, the first time dd was 6, the second time she was 7. As it happens we are now no contact with both of them after their appalling behaviour earlier this year. Ie sil screamed at dd (8 at the time) on the day of dds grandfathers funeral (my stepdad so not part of her family) and brother physically abused me at the burial of stepdads ashes. Dd was also present and she's shit scared of both of them. As am I. I'm chronically ill and disabled through the illness.

I think you should take a big step back and see what is really going on. My brother and sil have always expected us to sing to their tune, adapt plans on their say so and be able to do what they want to do even if I'm not physically able as they deny I'm even ill or have chronic pain. They are functioning alcoholics

If your sister is like this, I can imagine you're annoyed. However, if she's like this to accommodate the actual needs of small children, it is totally acceptable and you cannot all be expected to be together for the entire duration of a short break with much older and active children as the two are incompatible. If she can't see that, she's still living in baby land.

My advice would be to not go away with them again. There's something not right with the dynamic. I don't know if you're attributing to it or if you're refusing to cow tow to unreasonable demands, which is causing drama.

I really don't like the talking behind other people's backs. That is what brother and sil and mother do to me. Constantly. In a derogatory way. Denying my illness, coming to conclusions I wouldn't act in a certain way if I were actually ill and stating my dd is going off the rails for totally age appropriate behaviour. I, of course, was totally unreasonable with my brother at the burial. It is only to be expected that he physically abused me because I shouted at him. The fact that he shouted at me first "you're not disabled" when I told him for the fourth time I couldn't do something he was repeatedly telling me to do when I said I couldn't as I wasn't physically able. He is under the childish belief I was being awkward. No dickhead. That's your role.

What I'm saying is. Look at your sister. Really see her and her family. And then decide who's contributing to the poor dynamic.

FizzyGreenWater · 10/09/2017 16:26

Ok, from later posts it all sounds as if it's something that could be resolved, in context of family dynamics. To be honest though the thing that actually stood out to me was that your BIL ordered you to leave a holiday home that your mum had paid for? WTF? What the fuck authority did he have to do that?! No way would I have gone. Where was your Mum in all of this - the way I see it, if there was 'bitching' involved, your Mum was involved too. Did she sit back and let BIL intimidate you?

How fucking dare he, in short. This would be the aspect that would make this a real issue.

PerfectPenquins · 10/09/2017 16:30

If your mother paid there is no way in hell I'd have let bil kick her out! Shame on your sister allowing that.

ADishBestEatenCold · 10/09/2017 16:30

"Our Mother booked and paid for the holiday home"

I've just seen this ^ and also realised that he put you out in the evening!?! There and then?!? After dinner time!?!

Your mum, too, the way I'm reading it. He put an 80 year old woman out of her (own) accommodation, in the evening? Is that true?

And you let him? Your sister let him?

TheLittleShirt · 10/09/2017 16:30

I can't believe the amount of people on here calling the OP nasty and judgey. Considering that known of you actually know her I would say that you are all the judgey ones. I know that she asked for opinions , but it would help if they were constructive and not as bitchy as you claim her to be. Rant over!

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