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AIBU to think that parents should buy the correct uniform and stop moaning

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Loveluck7 · 06/09/2017 17:07

I am getting increasingly irritated by people on FB moaning that their child's human rights have been violated because they were put into isolation for having the wrong uniform.

I understand that some rules can seem ridiculous but unfortunately some bad parents who have let their child wear spray on trousers and tiny skirts, have necessitated schools stipulating the exact items they need to wear.

Isolation does seem a harsh punishment when it is the parent's fault but how else can schools enforce the rules when some parent's think rules do not apply to them? The child cannot attend class without trousers and parent's would be angry if the child was sent home.

You also often find that it is these parent's who also complain when a school is no good at discipline, yet will not follow the rules themselves.

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EvilDoctorBallerinaDuckKeidis · 11/09/2017 10:04

Wow Cosmic, I wonder what they would have made of DD, no stores had her size, I had to click and collect and they arrived last Wednesday, the day she started back at school, so she had to wear last year's shoes on the first day.

HelenaDove · 11/09/2017 18:41

£44.99 Bloody hell.

NoYouDontKnowItAll · 11/09/2017 19:29

To add insult to this the same Reception teacher who won't let my son have packed lunches because it's "easier for her" if they don't has now decided to write to parents and say send your children in in trainers on PE days. She's decided it's "easier for her" if they don't bother getting changed in to kit at all.

Never mind that I along with the other parents/carers have just spent about £30 on top of everything else getting PE kit and kit bag and plimsolls but hey, as long as it's "easier for her" what else matters!!!

Should have told us this at the transition meetings last term you stupid stupid woman and no I won't be buying expensive trainers that he'll use for about an hour a week and grow out of in a month

Seriously, with all this and the uniform grief last week from secondary school words just fail me

HelenaDove · 11/09/2017 21:04

"The new head is Barry Smith, formerly the deputy principal and co-founder of the Michaela Community School in Wembley – a school with a reputation for being one of the strictest in the country.

Now he is doing everything possible to improve the prospects of Great Yarmouth High – attempting to crack down on children’s behaviour both in and outside the classroom.

Mr Smith’s new rules include supplying buckets for children who are sick instead of letting them leave the classroom and, extraordinarily, demanding parents send their children to bed by 9:00PM at the very latest.

Laughable

A public group for concerned parents has been created on Facebook, calling the school’s policies “army like”.

The group, “Yarmouth High Worried Parents”, was set up after parents of children at the school received letters from Mr Smith, outlining his extreme expectations and a new set of Academy standards, such as “you never get out of your chair without permission at Charter.”

The Inspiration Trust’s spokesperson James Goffin believes that these outlandish measures are justified, stating that “Children can’t learn in unruly classrooms”. However, certain other rules – such as the fact that traditional black leather or leather-like shoes must be worn and the banning of phones even outside of lessons – show that making classrooms less “unruly” is not the Academy’s only concern.

Indeed, Mr. Smith’s letter even blamed parents for the school’s incompetence, stating that “pupil indiscipline was commonplace and many parents simply did not support the school.”

Students who fail to obey any of the new rules – which include a total ban on chewing-gum – will be immediately sent to isolation.

A Spreading Concern

Great Yarmouth High isn’t the only school in the county stepping up its strictness in attempt to improve its reputation. Tim Gibbs, headteacher of Reepham High, hopes the school’s new ban on mobile phones will allow teachers to focus on learning.

While it cannot be doubted that the use of mobile phones in classrooms can be distracting (and if you do have any doubt, a report by the Centre for Economic Performance proves it), there is also evidence to suggest that playing games on phones during breaktimes can improve pupils’ concentration and boost results in class.

Bullying

If a school wants to improve their results, first and foremost it must improve their facilities and, more than anything else, the standard of teaching. Unfortunately, this is unlikely to be achieved alongside a Tory government who have been constantly slashing school budgets for years.

While James Goffin asserts that pupils need “the right environment to learn and succeed“, an oppressive environment which forces students to wear a specific type of shoe will in no way improve learning.

Parents of students at Great Yarmouth High have hit back at the headtacher’s demands, with Steven Holmes saying his daughter came home in tears after her first day of high school. “This isn’t about discipline”, he said. “It’s bullying.”

The Academy will hold a meeting for all parents “so they can hear first hand what Great Yarmouth Charter Academy is really all about."

HelenaDove · 11/09/2017 21:08

“You never lie and make excuses like, ‘I just wanted to put something in the bin’. We all know children say things like that to get out of work. You never pretend to be ill to get out of work because we expect you to work through it. If you feel sick we will give you a bucket. If you vomit - no problem! You’ve got your bucket. That’s probably all your body wanted - to vomit. If you are really ill we will make sure you get all the attention you need."

JESUS WEPT.

Roseformeplease · 11/09/2017 21:57

When I was at school (private) the uniform was free for those who did not pay fees. Part of the fees for those who did. 1 supplier (school) and all handed out like the army. Handed back when outgrown and a mixture of second hand and new given out, including shoes.

MehMehAndMeh · 11/09/2017 22:31

That's grim Helena, an attitude that kids are all malingering, work shy liars belongs in the nineteenth century. You can see were future working practices are bring modelled in schools and it doesn't look great for workers rights and those of the unemployed and disabled.

MaisyPops · 11/09/2017 22:52

It depends. There's space for being reasonablr and space to realise that kids (as they have done since the dawn of time) can waste time and procrastinate like champions.

I've had secondary students ask if they can go and get a wet paper towel because they banged their elbow on the table/their finger hurts etc. Primary teachers have a lot to answer for with your awesome placebo Grin

Or thru are DESPERATE for the toilet so you say, see how you go and ask me in 5 if you still really need it. 45 mins later theyve forgotten they were going to burst.

Other good ones 'oh. I didn't realise thats for us' ... what you mean today's date and title on our topic. Grin

None of those are malicious. It's just kids trying it on, like we did as kids, and their kids will do in future.

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ReanimatedSGB · 12/09/2017 09:17

Saw that on another thread. Horrifying. Some of these HTs strike me as people who go into education because they hate children and love power.

EvilDoctorBallerinaDuckKeidis · 12/09/2017 09:55

Miaow I love your pupils! 😂

DD's unusual, she's thrilled that her teacher's the maths lead this year, she's looking forward to lots of tests! Confused😂

PortiaCastis · 12/09/2017 10:03

Maybe someone should puke on that heads feet or over his head.

Cannot stand these power crazed nazi nutjobs

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