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AIBU to think that parents should buy the correct uniform and stop moaning

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Loveluck7 · 06/09/2017 17:07

I am getting increasingly irritated by people on FB moaning that their child's human rights have been violated because they were put into isolation for having the wrong uniform.

I understand that some rules can seem ridiculous but unfortunately some bad parents who have let their child wear spray on trousers and tiny skirts, have necessitated schools stipulating the exact items they need to wear.

Isolation does seem a harsh punishment when it is the parent's fault but how else can schools enforce the rules when some parent's think rules do not apply to them? The child cannot attend class without trousers and parent's would be angry if the child was sent home.

You also often find that it is these parent's who also complain when a school is no good at discipline, yet will not follow the rules themselves.

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Fresh8008 · 07/09/2017 11:32

it's probably a good idea to check first though, at least if the school is very pernickerty about uniform rules, and doesn't really state them clearly on the website.

That is not a defense. If you are ambiguous on whether or not an item is regulation you dont buy it. In an average with 2000 pupils you dont have 2000 parents queuing up with clothes to have them pre-checked. 99% of parents manage to buy the right uniform first time without having to ask.

The only reason you ask is to try and 'bend' the rules. Sometimes it backfires when the head tightens checks. Do not buy items that are iffy and then complain.

noeffingidea · 07/09/2017 11:32

chock nobody called you a cunt. You assumed it was directed towards yourself. Not everything is about you, you know?

anotherniceday · 07/09/2017 11:33

I'm all for them wearing uniform, but only when it's supermarket prices.
Paying over £30 for a jumper that they will more than likely lose is ridiculous and not fair on the parents who have to fork out for lots of children.

The school should have little badges/school logos made that parents could buy and then sew them onto sweatshirts etc.
You should be able to buy everything cheaply at a supermarket and then sew on the school badge.

chockwockydoda · 07/09/2017 11:34

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LornaMumsnet · 07/09/2017 11:35

Ahem

Peace and love, please?

JugglingFromHereToThere · 07/09/2017 11:35

Blimey chock that seems a bit of a strong and personal thing to say!

noeffingidea · 07/09/2017 11:37

Fresh I don't think people were queuing up to check.
I never had to check my kids school uniform either, that's because they didn't specify a lot of conditions. Blacl leather shoes, grey school trousers sufficed.
As for your previous suggestion about homeschooling or choosing a different school, that really isn't an option for many parents, as I'm sure you're aware.

MiaowTheCat · 07/09/2017 11:37

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chockwockydoda · 07/09/2017 11:37

I'm sick of people blaming teachers and schools and everyone else for their own shit life choices. Sorry but if you teach your child that rules are rules and people should be respected then they will do well in life. If you teach them that everyone is a twat then they will grow up with nothing

Gileswithachainsaw · 07/09/2017 11:38

Schools are supposed to be part of a community they shouldn't be arriving people out from attending. People stupid enough to think this crap is what matters in a school and are unable to give one good reason why 110 is justifiable besides "rulz is rulz " are the problem.im.society. not the people struggling to pay it being picked on by a dick head staff member

Gileswithachainsaw · 07/09/2017 11:38

Pricing

Fresh8008 · 07/09/2017 11:40

noeffingidea but why else would a parent need to precheck items with a teacher unless you are ambiguous about it passing regulations. Why not just buy something that is obviously within rules, the same as everyone else is wearing you know something uniform.

coddiwomple · 07/09/2017 11:40

I always wonder if people who moan about school uniforms really believe they would dress their children for free, if there was no school uniform?
Yes, uniforms do cost money, all clothes do. The difference is that you have to buy pretty much all the clothes at the same time, because kids grow.

£16 is not a lot of money for a pair of trousers, it is middle of the range: you can find cheaper in Primark and H&M, and are likely to spend more for non-uniforms trousers in Next, and other high street stores. (not even going into higher brands). You can pick up packs of polo shirts or proper shirts for a few quids in supermarket - so even if you think the trousers are a bit more than you would spend, the tops are cheaper.

It's hardly a surprise that you will have to dress and feed your children, is it? We all know that we are going to be stuck with expensive childcare if we want to work, that we will only be able to go on holiday at peak-time, and that we will buy school uniforms.

The costs are extortionate in some private schools, much more reasonable in state schools. Kids have to get dressed anyway, no fuss, no argument, it's so much easier.
Wait until you have to start buying their books and all their supply. Schools have less and less funding, we are lucky we don't have to spend anything yet. I would be surprised if that last, I'd rather we buy the books than run out of teachers- then what?

CosmicPineapple · 07/09/2017 11:41

So please don't make out just because I said I personally thought your choice of footwear was extravagant that I'm a cunt.

I never made out you were a cunt!! Shock not once have I called you names.

You have berated me for not marching in to school. You have berated me for writing a note you said I needed to put my big girl pants on. Thats belittling me.
You gave said constantly I am whinging moaning can spend time on internet. Hmm

I have explained myself many many times and I managed to do so without putting you down or calling you names.

MiaowTheCat · 07/09/2017 11:44

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AmyGardner · 07/09/2017 11:45

OP, you're coming off really badly with your continual justifications of why it's ok for you to publicly berate another poster.

Can't you just be humane and give it a rest? Confused

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Bobbydeniro69 · 07/09/2017 11:46

Uniforms are in place to stop school being a fashion parade which encourages bullying and socio -economic levels forming.

It might not work all the time but it's better than 'lets see which kids can turn up in the most expensive jeans or trainers'.

A pet hate of mine is seeing some loutish kid with a ridiculous hairstyle in the local paper with his equally loutish parent complaining that the school has sent them home because their hair is died bright blue and has the local football teams badge shaved in to it.

Oh, and the girls having to wear tights rule at the school . Absolutely disgusting, the boys at this school need to be made aware that taking voyeuristic photos of this nature is a criminal offence. It is simply not acceptable for the girls to have to make clothing adjustments.

Fresh8008 · 07/09/2017 11:48

At my DC normal state school some parents donate second hand clothes to the school. They are then passed on to 'families' who can't afford to buy the clothes.

Perhaps something for parents to consider organising!

noeffingidea · 07/09/2017 11:48

Fresh well perhaps they're just not sure and want to double check? Perhaps there isn't much choice available and it's either shoes that are possibly 'ambiguous' or no shoes at all.
Just as an example, my local shoe shop sold shoes that had the appearance of trainers, but with no logo, in the school shoes section. My son's school accepted them as black leather school shoes, but other schools might not.

Gileswithachainsaw · 07/09/2017 11:49

Yeah miaow between voucher codes, sales and internet searches I can usually find things cheaper.

You can't do that with uniform

Aderyn17 · 07/09/2017 11:52

you dont like a schools uniform/hair style rules then you are welcome to home school

There's always one. How do you home school if you need to work full time in order to kerp your child fed and clothed? Or if you don't actually know how to teach all the subjects on the curriculum? I guess you could pay for tutoring but if someone cannot afford shoes thrn £25 per hour for a maths tutor is unlikely to be an option. Home school really isn't a realistic choice for most.

Fresh8008 · 07/09/2017 11:52

Non uniform days are are so demanding in terms of what is worn. I cant even begin to imagine how expensive it would be if their was a fashion parade every day of the year.

coddiwomple · 07/09/2017 11:53

if you really want cheap clothes, why don't you buy school uniforms on sale, and/or second hand?

School don't change the entire uniform every single year, no way will you really need brand new clothes every single year if you don't want them.
People are just looking for excuses.

coddiwomple · 07/09/2017 11:56

I spent a few years in a non-uniform school. That was interesting. I still feel sorry for the kids who could not keep up.

There's a thread about children asking for branded pencil case and bags. You can imagine if it was the same for clothes.

MiaowTheCat · 07/09/2017 11:58

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