AIBU to think that parents should buy the correct uniform and stop moaning

[Loveluck7]

I am getting increasingly irritated by people on FB moaning that their child's human rights have been violated because they were put into isolation for having the wrong uniform.

I understand that some rules can seem ridiculous but unfortunately some bad parents who have let their child wear spray on trousers and tiny skirts, have necessitated schools stipulating the exact items they need to wear.

Isolation does seem a harsh punishment when it is the parent's fault but how else can schools enforce the rules when some parent's think rules do not apply to them? The child cannot attend class without trousers and parent's would be angry if the child was sent home.

You also often find that it is these parent's who also complain when a school is no good at discipline, yet will not follow the rules themselves.

Her child was not bullied he was told off because he had a logo on his shoe.

Then love and I have both said stand your ground and send him in the shoes.

Bearfrills, She is the type of parent who has not followed the rules and moans. She has claimed to be the victim as a way of stopping debate. If me stating these things are judgemental in your eyes then so be it.

I have to go out now will be back later. Not avoiding debate but have things to do IRL

I think schools should choose a uniform where it's possible to buy some of the items from regular high street stores.
We buy DS's trousers from M&S where they are an acceptable shade of dark grey, and also white shirts from there.
In packs of two and three respectively they were quite reasonable and he looks very smart with school blazer and tie.
I didn-tmind paying slightly more for school skirts for DD as they are a nice and distinctive style, and especially as the school shop also has a second hand section, and friends also passed down some extra blouses and skirts for her.
Everyone looks extremely smart and it doesn't break the bank.
One other thing I think schools should do is choose a distinctive below the knees style skirt for the girls, or a trouser option too would be good.

@CosmicPineapple- I appreciate what you're saying, but were the uniform guidelines not distributed at the end of last term? Surely it is your responsibility to check that there hasn't been a rule change regarding uniform? I appreciate that we all miss things and it's rubbish for your son, and the good that you're fixing the issue, but if the school issues the uniform guidelines and you missed this one, then it's not their fault.

Loveluck do you have a problem with reading or language skills or something?
Cosmic has repeatedly said that she followed the rules. Unfortunately though, she isn't a psychic or a mindreader and therefore was unable to know that the headteacher would change the rules over the school holidays without informing the parents.

Go to your manager and state what has happened and ask if you can leave early or come in late and not take lunch. Most people are human enough to say that's fine. She can sit on the internet all day at work

Manager is lovely but could not agree to this as I am the only one in due to staff leave.
I do not get a lunch break as I gave that up so I could finish 30 minutes early to reduce my childcare costs.
I am able to post on mn because the IT bloke that is currently under my desk has decided to pull apart my PC. There is nobody in the public area that I man so I am sat waiting to do some work so am on my phone.
But hey thats just me moaning and playing the victim.

Noeffingidea

Your name is so ironic

You don't get it.

Love is basically saying you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Do you understand that saying?

Well I offered this morning to take the shoes in for you and stick them somewhere dark so you can't complain at that

say of course I checked the list that is how I know the only uniform change is a gold tie for y11.

The shoe policy is the same as last year. No trainers/track shoes must be all black lace up or slip on.
The shoes he wore yesterday are the same pair he wore April to July which I bought after checking with head of year that they were suitable.

I am actually laughing now at how many times I have repeated myself

chock seriously, what is your problem?

After several years of school uniform I have never needed to ask a teacher if a certain item was acceptable. Why does anyone need to ask a teacher if something will be allowed unless it doesn't really follow the written rules.

Uniform enforcement is usually tightened up at the start of the year. Some parents buy things at the end of the year which are 'accepted' because rules are less enforced. But they have no excuse if they dont pass muster at the start of the year because you should have bought the right stuff in the begining.

Its not a teachers opinion, uniform rules are written down so as to to avoid parents ambiguity.

Idiots and winging people that is my problem.

This is the school I was telling you about, with girls being made to wear tights. Apparently it's due to a the school having a large number of staircases. Just madness!

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/parents-outraged-after-school-turns-11124515.amp

Don't know how to make it a clicky link sorry.

Chock fairenough. Judgemental cunts and arseholes are my problem, especially when they don't appear to read other people's posts correctly.

I'm American and it's true most schools don't have uniforms

That's interesting.
It's a known fact that American children are better behaved in class.
If there's a disruptive child in the class the teachers can request their removal and their decision is backed up.
Whereas in our schools teachers are forced to pander to the disruptive few, which results in whole lessons being wrecked and very little learning going on.

I always thought uniform was a bit of a 'control' thing.
It's obviously not working.

No I think school need to seriously get over themselves and they should be fined for doing stuff like a friend of mine her boy went to school first day at seniors
Looking v v smart
He was of course nervous and got bollecked that his hair is too short

Wtaf

It was a number two or something. Around the back and sides
And looked perfectly smart and neat

I'd like to see this school punished and fined

Fresh808 it's probably a good idea to check first though, at least if the school is very pernickerty about uniform rules, and doesn't really state them clearly on the website.

I don't understand the argument about £16 trousers.

It's not like they only need one pair, is it? They probably need two or three to get through the week. So there's £48 on trousers alone.

Plus a number of shirts, cardis, then shoes, bag, etc.

It's not easy for everyone, people who are suggesting that £16 'isn't a fortune' are unthinking and crass.

If you dont like a schools uniform/hair style rules then you are welcome to home school. No one is forcing you to use a particular school.

choc I am not an idiot and I am not whinging please dont call me names.

My original post was about being upset and ashamed and angry at myself.
Of course i do feel moany against the school because they decided his shoes are no longer suitable and my son who did nothing wrong was isolated.
He was upset yesterday and kept apologising that it was going to cost me money he was sorry but he did not want to be isolated until payday.
I feel shit because he feels shit.
I feel shit because I cannot afford to replace them immediatly.

Yes its a pity party.
I feel like having a day off from being capable/managing/smiling through it.

Many American schools have metal detectors and armed guards. I'd rather keep the arguments about tie width tbf.

You are winging and looking for pitty and I offered help and I didn't attack you I said for the umpteenth time let this kid wear the shoes. Tell the school they are pathetic and even offered to tell them that for you. So please don't make out just because I said I personally thought your choice of footwear was extravagant that I'm a cunt.

Oh brilliant. The ones who think 110 pound blazers are reasonable, refuse to acknowledge that people can't just take a morning off work to deal with this nonsense and think everyone should save £2 a week to stroke the heads ego are calling other posters the idiots...