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Outgrowing names

494 replies

Happydoingitjusttheonce · 05/09/2017 20:22

In dentist waiting room yesterday and dental nurse calls "Alfie". A near 6ft 16 year old with a tracksuit and key wig rises from his seat. He probably made a cute Alfie when he was a toddler. Do kids outgrow cutesy names?

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Happydoingitjusttheonce · 06/09/2017 16:00

Clearly not reetgood because I have a high performing team with attrition only occurring due to promotion. Not sure why I would mess with that

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PoppyPopcorn · 06/09/2017 16:04

Blaydon is a town near where I live and not one I'd expect a child to be named after grin

I have exactly the same feelings about people who call their daughters Paisley. They've clearly never been there.

Or even worse - Paisleigh.

MargotLovedTom1 · 06/09/2017 16:08

Alisvolatropolis - Maisie was and is popular in Scotland.

www.scottishgirlsnames.co.uk/maisie/

Alisvolatpropiis · 06/09/2017 16:10

Interesting Margot. It doesn't seem to be popular at all in Wales.

Eliza9917 · 06/09/2017 16:28

But it does happen Toffee as evidenced by this thread and what you've read on Baby Names. Parents need to name their child something they like but in the best long term interests of the child

Why? Because people like you will discriminated against them just because you are a name snob? Discrimination is discrimination, whatever form it takes.

With regards to the names being 'toddler' names, that's not true, its just because they fell out of fashion for a while (hence lots of older people with them) and now they are back in vogue, there are lots of younger people with them and not that many 'mid' age people with them so the OP - in their close minded world - thinks they are toddler names Hmm

Headofthehive55 · 06/09/2017 16:35

People generally have names blind polices because it's the right thing to do.
Otherwise where would it stop? Would you expect boys names to be favoured over girls? Equally I believe the arguement was that girls would get pregnant and need mat leave. They do.

Would you expect the Drs receptionist to make a space for a favoured name?
The admissions tutor rejecting 'foreign sounding names' ?

MargotLovedTom1 · 06/09/2017 16:43

Exactly. We'd do a double take at a 5 year old Jeffrey, Barry or Kenny these days because they are middle aged names. Although if OP was operating in 1987 and not 2017, 20 year Barry wouldn't get a look in either because Barry would more likely to be a rough sort than 20 year old Simon. That's what it all boils down to.

MargotLovedTom1 · 06/09/2017 16:44

My "exactly" was to Eliza.

BalloonSlayer · 06/09/2017 17:27

I used to know a hulking great, charmless, teenage male called Nicki. Yes, spelled like that. I expect he is known as Nick now. He must have been a cute baby I suppose but did his mum not think he would grow up or something?

mathanxiety · 06/09/2017 19:25

That's true but your parents can and you are the product of their genes and nurturing. Their choice can be reflective of that. Though you won't believe me, that's not class prejudice, that's the reality of needing a high quality work force in a professional, pressured and competitive environment.

That is a big steaming pile of atrocious prejudice.

Every major law firm in the US city where I live has a diversity committee that seeks to widen the net when it comes to intake of new associates, and to create a climate where people from non-traditional backgrounds will feel comfortable and give their utmost to their work.

So you get women whose names are Coleen (yes, one L) and Sharon and Chardonnay and Octavia who are partners.

You can turn up your nose at the fact that I am talking about observations of the US, of course, but the firms in question enjoy an average of $2 billion in revenue each every year. They recruit from the most selective law schools in the US and abroad.

Your approach will stunt your company's growth.

puzzledbyadream · 06/09/2017 19:44

I'm white British and I've got a very foreign sounding name that people can't pronounce. I have absolutely no doubt I've been passed over for jobs because of my name, and that it's because of racism.

I mean I could change my name. But I've been named after a plateau in Africa for a long old time now and it would take some getting used to. And my middle name is very old fashioned and much more suited to an 80 year old.

People used to ask my mum if she'd made it up! I mean at least my name's a talking point if nothing else.

Happydoingitjusttheonce · 06/09/2017 21:55

But mathanxiety, it hasn't. I can't reveal my company stats without outing myself but my approach has grown my company. If there is any doubt about my application of bias, let me say that half my team are praticising muslims. But I'm not keen on giving Kayleigh a shot. Her parents could of course be Marillion fans. But I haven't the luxury of time to find out

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mathanxiety · 06/09/2017 22:08

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I wonder if anyone knows a Chelseigh or a Tyler or a Britnee or a Tilly-Mae who goes to Kings College London, or Cambridge, or Oxford? I bet no-one does.

I know a Dayle-Maree who goes to Yale, a Chardonnay who is attending the University of Chicago (#9 university in the world this year according to the latest Times ranking) a Brianna who will be a veterinary surgeon in three years, and a Jayla, a Kristi-Lee and a Destyny who are students at the University of Michigan, University of Virginia and Wellesley, respectively.

To User and the OP - hire them before they hire you.

mathanxiety · 06/09/2017 22:11

What you are doing is acting based on pure prejudice, and it is reprehensible, and unless you are selling Korans to Saudi Arabia, there is no way you should know anything about the religious affiliation of people you hire.

Wore still, you are assuming that people, potential customers and contacts, that you deal with, share your blinkered view of what is right and proper.

How much more might your company have grown if you did not have a policy of discriminating against people whose names you look down your nose at?

MikeUniformMike · 06/09/2017 22:12

Jayla is destined to be a judge. Or a prison officer.

Happydoingitjusttheonce · 06/09/2017 22:14

there are always exceptions to the rule Mathan. As with my Aimee. But the rule still stands

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squoosh · 06/09/2017 22:16

The rule being that you're determined to take pride in being a snobbish idiot.

mathanxiety · 06/09/2017 22:16

Do you honestly believe that companies or organisations would not do business with you if you were to show that you were a diverse organisation?

Is the UK so far behind the rest of the world that diversity has no cachet there?

Happydoingitjusttheonce · 06/09/2017 22:17

Mathan, when my team ask me to join Ramadan and we do it together, how can I not know their religious affiliation? Or when they wear hijab? We are colleagues and friends. Your comment is very odd

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mathanxiety · 06/09/2017 22:17

Jayla will most definitely be a doctor.

squoosh · 06/09/2017 22:18

You love Muslims but you hate working class people. You must feel so conflicted when you meet a working class Muslim.

Happydoingitjusttheonce · 06/09/2017 22:20

We are a hugely diverse organisation, our head office is not in Europe. I do not represent my organisation I represent me. How powerful or influential do you think I am?? I'm on mumsnet for lords sake!

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Happydoingitjusttheonce · 06/09/2017 22:21

Love/hate sqoosh? Come on now. It's a point of view, don't get over emotional

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squoosh · 06/09/2017 22:24

Oh come now. It's pretty clear from your posts that you have nothing but utter disdain for people who don't come from a working class. If anyone has emotional 'issues' it's most definitely you.

mathanxiety · 06/09/2017 22:25

Fostering a work environment where people can be invited, no matter how charmingly, to join in a religious observance - be it Ramadan or fasting for Lent or any other participatory observance - is a mistake.

The rule should be to leave religious observance at home and never to solicit participation on the part of co-workers. The rock solid reason behind this is to avoid creating a hostile environment where atheists, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, and any others, would be made to feel they had to participate for the sake of team spirit, or would feel uncomfortable declining if they were in a minority, or would worry about how their co-workers saw them if they declined. There is very obvious potential for a manager to take advantage of his or her position to push conformity.

I honestly can't believe what I have seen posted here about how your company operates, OP.

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