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AIBU?

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to think that my ex colleague is being a cheeky fucker?

143 replies

Iris65 · 04/09/2017 19:50

Short version I was made redundant mainly due to my ex colleague refusing to share our workload more equitably - she would have stayed fulltime I would have reduced hours to 0.25. Instead she took on the whole of my role when she could easily have carried on with what she had.
I got an email from her today (four months after my redundancy notice) asking for information which will take several hours for me to put together and that she could have asked for when I was still employed!
AIBU to feel that she is being a right cheeky and insensitve cow?

OP posts:
category12 · 04/09/2017 22:28

It's all very amusing thinking of horrid emails to send back, but presumably you might need a reference from the company at some point, so I would either ignore or respond politely. If you're willing to do the work, then respond asking about arrangements for payment. If you're not willing to do it, then I'd probably just ignore.

RubaDubMum89 · 04/09/2017 22:38

"Hahaha, you always did tell funny jokes, I do miss that about you! Thanks for cheering me up!

Although, seeing as I no longer work in the office anymore, would you mind taking me off your mailing list? I used to love these funny chain emails, but now they just remind me what I'm missing!

Hope all is well with you and you're enjoying your new role!"

scootinFun · 04/09/2017 22:43

I would go with Shestoles suggestion.

PopGoesTheWeaz · 04/09/2017 22:58

Haven't read thread but if you do get offered to be paid for your time, remember that as a consultant your rate should be 1.5 to 3 times higher than your rate as an employee ;)

Ellisandra · 04/09/2017 23:01

Depending on what she's actually asking of you, she'd be in a lot of trouble at my company. You simply do not discuss company business with non employees. That's before you even think about potentially disgruntled ex employees!

I agree with others that the reason for your redundancy is further up the management chain though.

Iris65 · 04/09/2017 23:04

She couldn't decide any such thing.

She did but I accept that management should have looked after me. They didn't thoug, which is why part of me is glad that I am not there anymore.

OP posts:
MadamePomfrey · 04/09/2017 23:05

I completely agree you shouldn't do it! I wouldn't send anything drastic though invade you want a reference in the future. I'm sorry due to other work commitments I'm not able to do this at the moment or something else calm and measured. I also agree it's not her fault you were made redundant. From what you have said she is doing .75 of her old role and your .25 of another roll. The management decided to not fill the .25 of her original role which the could have offered you. I agree you have been treated badly but I don't think it's fair to just blame her.

eddielizzard · 04/09/2017 23:06

yes shestole's strategy is excellent.

GreenTulips · 04/09/2017 23:12

She couldn't decide any such thing

Of coarse she did, so people are better at self preservation than others - few 'words' in the right ears goes along way!

I'd also email back CC the boss and say

Thank you for your email requesting X information and X nonof hoirs work.

Am I to assume that this will be paid employment?

I look forward to your response.

pringlecat · 04/09/2017 23:26

If I'd left on good terms, I might unofficially help. But it kinda sounds like she screwed you over and her lack of competence is her karma.

indigox · 04/09/2017 23:26

She couldn't decide any such thing.

Of course she could, don't be so naive

Shadow666 · 04/09/2017 23:31

I had a similar situation but I just ignored the emails. I was very angry about how I was treated and didn't want to get dragged back into it all.

SnowBells · 04/09/2017 23:33

LespritDescalier
You are giving managers way too much credit. I work for a pretty big company. Things are not always decided by managers. Sometimes, they do things because their 'favourites' make requests.

I think this is a smaller company, so it will be more like that...

Ceto · 04/09/2017 23:35

Tempting as it is to tell her to fuck off, think about whether it would affect any reference if you're likely to need one from that company in future.

LeakyLittleBoat · 04/09/2017 23:55

Previous employers can't 'blackmail' you by expecting you to work for free in order to give you a good reference - OP is perfectly entitled to ask for compensation for her time and effort if she does this. No need to be arsey or burn bridges though. Let's assume management do know about this, you can email back to CF colleague and copy management to cover your back. If you don't want to do it just say You wish you could help out but on this occasion unfortunately it will not be possible due to other commitments. If you do want to do the work, lay out a professional quote saying it will be x hours at x rate (try and be reasonable but also remember private consultants do charge more because they have additional overhead employeees don't) and give them a date when you expect to have the work completed.

LellyMcKelly · 04/09/2017 23:58

Check the terms of your redundancy. You might find that you are no longer allowed to work for them in any capacity. Certainly do not do the work without checking that you are allowed to do it, and that it will be recompensed (some redundancy contracts may allow you to do consultancy work for them). In any case, there is a risk that you will provide innacurate or out of date information and if the organisation want to to carry out work to provide the information required it should be authorised so that you are accountable and protected.

Shankarankalina · 05/09/2017 00:01

Just reply UNSUBSCRIBE

Pallisers · 05/09/2017 00:10

I would either ignore completely or send a polite message back (possibly copying HR and her manager maybe) saying "this information is available by accessing the data records" or "This data will be easily accessible from xyz"

Don't be tempted to send any message about how she is trying to get you to do her job for her or to fuck off. Remain absolutely professional and polite while absolutely refusing to do her job for her.

GreenTulips · 05/09/2017 00:15

think about whether it would affect any reference if you're likely to need one from that company in future.

Can you explain why you think this?

jacks11 · 05/09/2017 00:15

OP YANBU to not want to help.

I would politely decline, pointing out you no longer work for the company. Be professional, detached and cool- but polite. Depending on the situation I may or may not copy in to management- if you may want to go back to work there or within the same field in the future (especially if small field) or if management tend to be prickly, I would tread carefully as it could backfire. I certainly wouldn't get into dramatics/ "trying to get her into trouble"/telling her what for. That is more likely to reflect badly on OP- these things do have a habit of getting around, especially in smaller fields.

If OP's ex-colleague as is incompetent at her job as has been suggested, sooner or later she'll be found out. There is no need for OP to get embroiled in a drama over it. Short term might feel great to '`get your own back" but overall better to remain professional.

I also don't think the ex-colleague single handedly got OP made redundant- their employers must have decided who they made redundant at the end of the day. They could have chosen OPs preferred option and ex-colleague would presumably had to go along with it or leave. So she may have had a hand in it, but not solely responsible.

My grandfather always said be careful who step on on your way through life, especially if you are on your way up- because you never know who'll you might meet later on- especially if you're on your way down. I think it's stood me in pretty good stead, and have found being professional and polite- even if it's through gritted teeth- has always worked in my favour in the long run.

e1y1 · 05/09/2017 00:57

Reply, copying in her manager and HR, stating that you no longer work for xx company and you do not appreciate being asked to do her job for her in light of this. However, should the company wish to enter negotiations for your return you would be willing to consider this with a 20% payrise and some extra holiday days

This with fucking bells on.

What an absolute CF she is.

justilou · 05/09/2017 01:48

Definitely what @sobeyondthehills said - making sure you copy in her email and the reasons you lost your job.

Shestolethewitchesredshoes · 05/09/2017 06:32

In regards to references - employers are only required to confirm dates you were employed. They can't give you a negative reference because they contacted you after your employment ceased to do some work... and you 'shock' set them straight about the fact you longer work there and that ex-colleagues is askong you for help/to do some work.

Secondly - excolleague shouldn't have contacted you. hR or Management would have if it was an official request. She has been sly here. If it were my business, I would want to know if staff are conducting themselves this way so that I can address it.

OP -as a Pp said, the info or help you provide could very much be out of date or no longer correct. If you do help without being given the correct direction or updated info from the employer, your help could turn out to be a costly hindrance.

I'd still email CF colleague telling her you don't work.

And I'd send a separate email to the boss to say the same. Keep the boss on side by forwarding the email. Thanking them for thinking of you but unfortunately you are no longer employed. Ask the boss to call you to discuss either payment for the work, re-employment or to confirm you are not required.

As I said before CF has been very cheeky and probably gone behind their backs. I wouldn't answer to her at all, other than to say that you no longer work there. x

category12 · 05/09/2017 06:45

The employer may not be able to give a bad reference, but they can give a better one than just dates worked.

Also, people do talk and if it were to be a small town or niche industry, it's not worth getting a stroppy reputation, even if undeserved. My feeling is, keep it utterly professional and don't let yourself down, however shittily you think you've been treated.

Runningyogabooze · 05/09/2017 06:53

Ignore her

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