AIBU to think £62.50 is expensive for a 7.30am-6pm nursery day?

[DanielsandLukesmum]

I'm absolutely shocked.

That includes food, nappies and wipes.

18 months

No wonder some women choose to stay at home

It's not a choice if you end up spending more on childcare than you earn.

Nurseries round here (london zone 2) are all £90+ a day and the childminders aren't much cheaper. It would have been significantly more than my salary brought in, so I ended up not going back to work as it would have crippled us financially. I'm still quite bitter about it tbh!

I'll be paying £56 a day and that's in the allegedly cheap North East.

Sounds expensive to me but I live somewhere where childcare is properly subsidised and you don't pay more than around 250 euros a month for full time care but from what I've heard and judging by this thread yours is about average in the UK - how does anyone on a low wage afford to work?!

Applauds GingerGenius

Good childcare is expensive to provide.

The problem is that everything regarding looking after children is expensive. Food, petrol, gas, electricity, rent.

Once all of those are taken out the profit is pretty small.

I'm a childminder and work full time. Last year I made £13,000 profit. That's my salary for working full time.

Sounds reasonable including nappies and food.

how does anyone on a low wage afford to work?!

There are several government subsidy programmes available.

We paid more than that 4 years ago excluding nappies (at least £10 pr day more), also outstanding and low staff turnover but we were SW London.

I wish childcare was properly subsidised - so that employees and business owners were fairly remunerated enabling all parents to work if they chose to.

That is cheap compared to what we pay-it's roughly what we pay now but we provide food and nappies!

I was paying £25 per day in 1998. This was before day nurseries really took off and there was only one in the town. I had to provide food and nappies and there were no childcare tax credits or free hours.

It was £50 a day when DS1 was a baby 17 years ago.

Less than £6 an hour including food and nappies sounds good to me. Mine was £6.75 an hour plus food and had to provide nappies. I had a toddler plus twin babies... and no money after childcare 😩
They're at school now and I feel rich 😁

At less than £6.00 p/h including food, nappies and wipes, I'd say that's extremely reasonable.

It is expensive but the nursery aren't raking it in, they have such high overheads.

It's due to childcare costs I'm a sahm, there's just no way I could afford to work.

My god!
Yes that's expensive, also can't believe the £90 per day one!!! Goodness me.
We charge £40.50 for a full day (8-6) and are in the North West. It is a lovely 50 place nursery, the staff are brilliant and we all genuinely care about the children. Our preschoolers leave us each year as wonderful, funny, bright individuals with a whole future ahead of them! Unless their overheads justify it, I really can't see how these businesses need to charge this much money. I'd love to see their premises!

everywhere,

But where does the money for the subsidies come from? Parents who don't use childcare? People who don't have children? I'm sure that would go down well.

No it's pretty average. I paid approx £55 four years ago and that didn't include nappies / wipes

Unless their overheads justify it, I really can't see how these businesses need to charge this much money. I'd love to see their premises!

Of course their overheads justify it, do you know how much rent is in London?

£57 in the south east here. For an under 2 year old

I know others cheaper but round here those are term time only ones that don't do tea.

It's hard but worth every penny in terms of the quality (and need)

I think some pre schools are cheaper?

MissJ just think about how much more the equivalent premises would cost in, say, central London vs where you are. Wages might well be higher too (they often are and the £19.5k room leader job posted upthread certainly suggests they are vs where I am)

Locally to me, a large number of the day nurseries are located in period townhouses. Building which, if sold, would sell for £1.5-£2 million. One large local nursery is split over, I think, 3 of these buildings.

It isn't that childcare is expensive; it's that it's not subsidised and wages are too low.
The Government has cut all funding to the bone and they now expect childcare providers to subsidise their 30 hours free childcare promise. Robert Goodwill, the Early Years minister, told us last week that we have to make it work and strongly implied that we should pass the discrepancy between the funding and our fees on to the parents. At least, he praised the big chain nurseries for making it work and that's what they're doing.

If you want to know why younger children aren't eligible for free childcare, according to Nick Clegg it's because Paul Dacre, the Daily Mail proprietor, thinks they should be at home with their parents. Disadvantaged 2 year olds should be entitled to 15 hours free nursery education. David Cameron refused to expand the scheme in case he upset PD:

www.theguardian.com/society/2017/sep/02/two-year-olds-childcare-government-policy-lucy-powell-nick-clegg

Fiercely proud of the initiative, Clegg also claimed last week that subsequent attempts by him to expand it were blocked by David Cameron because the editor of the Daily Mail would oppose it.
Recalling a 2015 meeting in the run-up to the coaltion’s final budget, when “a few hundred million” had become available from the Treasury, Clegg told the Observer: “I remember vividly Cameron saying ‘Oh we can’t possibly do that because Paul Dacre doesn’t like it. He thinks two-year-olds should stay at home.’”

Mine is £47 for under 2 and £45 for over 2 plus the over two get 10% sibling discount until free hours are claimed

£22.50 here from 8:45 - 3pm food included